Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [STDS-802-16-mobile] Clarification regarding idle mode and paging
Hi Gerdon,
In 3GPP network supporting all IP services (Release 5, SIP based
model), may require to address similar situation. Support of voice
and SMS is somehow inbuilt and treated differently in 3GPP Rel 99 and
Rel4. I have not looked into dertails of Rel5, but will be useful if
you are aware and describe similar scenario from 3GPP.
Thanks
Lalit
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Clarification regarding idle mode and paging
Hi Gedon,
I'm asking this question, because I think that in order to
propose a solution, one must clearly state the problem. The example
of Netbios is a good example, because I personally don't think I want
to support Netbios broadcast over the WAN, and if that is the only
incident, then I would not be in favor of adding this kind of support.
To summarize, I think we should find convincing scenarios
that require this capability before adding it.
Regards,
Yigal
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[STDS-802-16-mobile] Clarification regarding idle mode and paging
Hi Yigal,
The periodic messages I refer to are actually
messages which one may choose to discard. An example may be NetBIOS
broadcast keep alive messages or network mappings, which the user may
choose not to respond to, as opposed to e.g. - VoIP packets. Thus
only specific services may generate paging instead of others.
-Gedon
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Yigal Leiba
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Hi Gedon,
Could you perhaps be more specific with regards to
what periodic messages you have in mind, on which network protocols.
Regards,
Yigal Leiba
Runcom Technologies
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Subject: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] Clarification
regarding idle mode and paging
"Idle Mode is intended as a mechanism to
allow MSS to become periodically available for DL broadcast traffic
Messaging ..".
It seems that the ability of an MSS to
determine which type of traffic may generate paging is important on a
network supporting a variety of services - and obviously it is also
missing in paging definition.
In a 3GPP network, paging is simple due to
limited services that might use it (dedicated voice calls and SMS) -
this service is inherent and explicit in the network. However, when
moving to a shared services network it is quite desirable to be able
to determine which types of traffic generate paging without requiring
specific carrier application to register and support the paging.
This is especially important on data networks
where many protocols send out periodic messages that the MSS may
choose to discard while maintaining some degree of availability.
It seems that defining optional idle mode
service flows (with classifiers) will provide a simple, flexible and
necessary amendment to the current paging definition.
I'd like to hear your thoughts/inputs on this.
Thanks in advance !
Gedon Rosner
Intel Corporation