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Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] Regarding Pilots Overlapping



Hi Ran,

We have noticed this problem in the D5, and have submitted the comment
(Comment# 342) to the Corrigenda in the last meeting. Please take a look
at it to see whether it addresses the problem you mentioned.

Regards,

Sean Cai
ZTE

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of Ran
Yaniv
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 1:56 AM
To: STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] Regarding Pilots Overlapping

Hi Yossi,

Sorry to disagree. Take the the 2K mode for example - there are 1702
active
subcarriers which should account for 1536 data subcarriers + pilots.
When
the overlap occurs, you have 1544 remaining subcarriers after you
allocate
pilots (see section 8.4.6.1.2.2.2). How would you allocate these extra 8
subcarriers to data subchannels?

I would either not transmit them and leave nulls (negligible power
gain), or
transmit them as.. pilots.

thanks
Ran



-----Original Message-----
From: Yossi Segal [mailto:yossis@RUNCOM.CO.IL]
Sent: Fri 29 October 2004 10:27
To: STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] Regarding Pilots Overlapping


Hi Varma,

The overlapping is not by mistake.
By using this overlapping you may use the same pilot for estimation/AFC
etc.
without
Adding more non overlapping pilots, and without increasing the number of
subcarriers used.
Same method is also used in the DVB-T (EN 300744).

Regards,
Yossi

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of varma
indukuri
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:58 AM
To: STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] Regarding Pilots Overlapping

hi all
I am seeing the same problem in 16e also for the "1024-FFT OFDMA
downlink
carrier allocations - FUSC". Table 309a from "802.16e/D5"
standard.
The variable pilots at the locations 324,336,516,520 are overlaping with
330,342,522,526 constant pilots. Perhaps I am mistaken.Plz intimate me
if
you find some solution for this Regards, varma ivs


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