RE: RE: stds-802-16: updated "Channel Models for Broadband Fixed Wireless Systems"
Thanks for the clarification Vinko - I agree. However (Roger) it really
ought to be 802.16.3c-01/29r5 after "acceptance" by the WG (since the TG is
no longer active).
David
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stds-802-16@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-stds-802-16@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Roger B. Marks
Sent: 01 July 2003 05:47
To: stds-802-16@ieee.org
Subject: Fwd: RE: stds-802-16: updated "Channel Models for Broadband
Fixed Wireless Systems"
>Hi David,
>
>Thank you, I understand your point. Just to clarify, the document is
>99.99 % same, only 5 additional authors were added to the list and
>few mistakes in Appendix B were corrected. The appendix was already
>there, solely contributed by Daniel Baum 2 years ago, and corrected
>by him last week. Nothing else was added or changed. Main reason to
>submit this document was to correct the authors list because the
>work is still quite often referenced in the academic work and we
>feel that additional authors deserve the recognition and that
>appendix should be accurate. We put lots of work contributing to
>this document, and we would hope that we should be given a chance
>to correct a few things that we missed.
>
>I am not on the 802.16 reflector any more so that this message will
>not reach it.
>
>Thank you for understanding,
>
>Vinko..
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Trinkwon [mailto:trinkwon@compuserve.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 14:38
>To: Roger B. Marks; stds-802-16@ieee.org
>Cc: Vinko Erceg
>Subject: RE: stds-802-16: updated "Channel Models for Broadband
>Fixed Wireless Systems"
>
>Roger
>
>With respect, I believe that this document should have been issued
>as 802.16.3c-01/29r5 since it merely repeats all the material in the
>previous document, and adds an Appendix B which is informational
>only.
>
>However, this then leaves three anomalies :
>
>a) Vinko has changed his organizational info from Iospan to Zyray
>Wireless Inc., which does not reflect his position at the time of
>the original normative information. A number of the other sources
>have subsequently changed their information, but this is not
>reflected in the "updated" document.
>
>b) The updated document implies that ALL the original authors have
>agreed / contributed Appendix B, which is not true.
>
>c) There is no TGa task group meeting scheduled any more to review /
>approve this revised contribution. It should therefore be reviewed /
>approved by the Working Group and logged as a WG or "late" TG3
>contribution (to be consistent with the original.)
>
>I suggest that a more appropriate action would be to leave
>802.16.3c-01/29r4 as the authoritative / normative document and for
>Vinko and his Stanford co-author(s) to submit Appendix B as a
>standalone contribution on "how to simulate the channel models in
>doc 802.16.3c-01/29r4" etc. This could be numbered as a WG or
>"late" TG3 contribution.
>
>I know that these are minor points, but we need to be more careful
>with our documentation practices, especially following the recently
>revealed "anomalies" in our handling of WiMax contributions in TGc
>and TGd.
>
>Presumably, this document (or whatever flows from the above) will be
>reviewed at the WG Opening Plenary ?
>
>
>David Trinkwon
>Email : Trinkwon@compuserve.com
>USA Tel : 650 245 5650 Fax : 650 649 2728
>UK Tel : +44 (0)7802 538315 Fax : +44 (0)20 7504 3586
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-stds-802-16@majordomo.ieee.org
>[<mailto:owner-stds-802-16@majordomo.ieee.org>mailto:owner-stds-802-16@majo
rdomo.ieee.org]On
>Behalf Of Roger B. Marks
>Sent: 30 June 2003 20:32
>To: stds-802-16@ieee.org
>Cc: verceg@zyraywireless.com
>Subject: stds-802-16: updated "Channel Models for Broadband Fixed
>Wireless Systems"
>
>
>
>Upon request, I have posted the following:
>
>Title: Channel Models for Broadband Fixed Wireless Systems
>Document Number: IEEE 802.16a-03/01
>URL:
><<http://ieee802.org/16/tga/docs/80216a-03_01.pdf>http://ieee802.org/16/tga
/docs/80216a-03_01.pdf>
>Source: Vinko Erceg
><<mailto:verceg@zyraywireless.com>mailto:verceg@zyraywireless.com>
>
>This is an updated version of Contribution 802.16.3c-01/29r4, which
>was approved by our old Task Group 3, to which it was contributed, in
>2001.
>
>I've also added a link to this document at the top of the TGa page
><<http://ieee802.org/16/tga>http://ieee802.org/16/tga>
>
>Roger
>
>
>>Hi Roger,
>>I uploaded the document {...} (Channel models for fixed wireless
>>applications). This is a revised version of the old document
> >802163c-01_29r4. This document is quite often used in references so
>>were hoping to fix few problems with appendix and authors list. We
>>would like not to present the document, this is just to correct it.
>>I hope that this is ok. Please let us know if you see any problems
>>with this.
>>
>>Thanks and best regards,
>>Vinko..