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Re: [STDS-802-16] question on OFDMA-based periodic ranging



Yigal,
 
I agree, in Fig 85, T4 does not cause MAC to re-iniatialize. However, in Fig 82, the non-OFDMA case, T4 does cause MAC to reinitialize. T4 is also defined as "a timer waiting for unicast ranging opportunity" in Table 295, it doesn't seem to quite fit into the use of T4 in OFDMA based periodic ranging.  In the non-OFDMA case, the periodic ranging is controlled by T27 timer instead of T4.
 
The original concern we have it T4 is too long to be used as periodic ranging timer. But, looking more closely at the two sections, I feel that T4 should be kept as the way it is and a new timer should be added as similar to T27 timer.
 
Hope I explain clearly. Thanks for your reply.
 
Mary
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] question on OFDMA-based periodic ranging

Hi Mary,
 
Looking at figure 85, I think T4 does not directly cause the MAC to re-initialize. Is there any issue with T4 except it being defined as minimum 30s that requires defining a new timer for OFDMA?
 
Yigal
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] question on OFDMA-based periodic ranging

Yigal,
 
Thanks for the clarification. For non-OFDMA based periodic ranging, when T4 times out, MAC is re-initialized and the frequency of periodic ranging is controled by BS using T27. For OFDMA based period ranging, it seems to be not too appropriate to use the same T4 timer for periodic ranging timer. Should we define a new timer for OFDMA periodic ranging?
 
Thanks.
 
Mary
 
 
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Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] question on OFDMA-based periodic ranging

Hi Mary,
 
It is indeed T4, and it is long because the original values were intended for Fixed service, not mobile.
 
Yigal Leiba
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Subject: [STDS-802-16] question on OFDMA-based periodic ranging

Hi,
 
In section 6.3.10.3, it's stated " Using the OFDMA ranging mechanism, the periodic ranging timer is controlled by the SS, not the BS". Is this Periodic ranging timer T4 as in Fig 85 or is this a seperate timer? It seems that the T4 value is too long to be served as a periodic ranging timer.
 
Thanks.
 
Mary Chion