Re: [STDS-802-16] [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] MBS Harmonization
Yigal and BJ Kim,
Forget it, you have to put the capability negotiation in just like we have
for all the other major new features (mobility, sleep, idle mode, security)
introduced in 16e. No getting around it.
Thanks,
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beomjoon (BJ) Kim" <beom@LGE.COM>
To: <STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] MBS Harmonization
> Dear Yigal
>
> You mean that every BS will be able to support Macro Diversity in PHY
level.
> Am I right? If so, we agree with you in that the negotiation procedures
are not necessary.
>
> Also, if you have another comment or answer, please give me a feedback.
>
> Thank you
>
> Regards,
>
> BJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <owner-stds-802-16-mobile@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> To: <STDS-802-16-MOBILE@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] MBS Harmonization
>
>
> > Dear BJ,
> >
> > I am not aware that there currently exists a possibility that a BS will
not
> > support the MBS zone in the PHY level, and I'm not sure we want to
promote
> > BS that do not support this very important capability, so I don't think
a
> > negotiation is required.
> >
> > BR,
> > Yigal
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org
> > [mailto:owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Beomjoon
> > (BJ) Kim
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:03 PM
> > To: STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] MBS Harmonization
> >
> >
> > Dear Yong Chang and all involved in MBS
> >
> > I'm BJ from LG Electronics.
> > We want to clarify a few things and our position regarding the issue in
the
> > uploaded contribution by Yong Chang.
> >
> > 1) Basically, we agree to that Pre-Advermisement may not be necessary
under
> > the assumption of Macro Diversity.
> > Therefore, NBR-ADV message may not include MBS Zone ID of neighbor BSs
(if
> > there is no need for an MSS to perform HO under the assumption).
> >
> > 2) However, when an MSS attempts to enter network at a BS, it is
necessary
> > for the MSS to negotiate MBS capability with the BS whether or not the
BS
> > can support MBS based on Macro Diversity. It is because all BSs may not
> > support MBS with Macro Diversity. So, we have proposed that Mode Support
> > Indication (MBS support) should be included in REG-REQ/RSP in our
> > contribution (H80216e-04/01).
> >
> > 3) Also, we have proposed a Backbone message to manage the BSs included
in
> > MBS zone.
> > We want to hear your opinion about the backbone message.
> > (Alvarion people seem to think it may be out of scope.)
> >
> > Additionally, we have a question.
> >
> > Under the environment where Macro Diversity is supported, we understand
that
> > there is no need for an MSS receiving only MBS traffic to perform
Handover
> > procedures.
> > However, there may be a case where an MSS starting to receive MBS
traffic
> > from BS 1 moves to BS 2.
> > In this case, BS 2 does not know the MSS is in its coverage because the
MSS
> > did not perform HO procedures.
> >
> > In this situation,
> > Q1: If there is DL traffic addressed to the MSS, how can either BS1 or
BS2
> > trasmits the traffic to the MSS without any session information of the
MSS?
> > If the MSS is in Idle Mode when the DL traffic arrives (at this time the
DL
> > traffic will arrive at BS1), the DL traffic may be delivered to the MSS
> > using the existing procedures of Idle Mode.
> > However, if the MSS is in Normal Mode or Sleep Mode, it is impossible to
> > deliver the traffic to the MSS.
> >
> > Q2: If the MSS has UL traffic to transmit, should the MSS perform
Initial
> > Network Entry at BS2?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > BJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <owner-stds-802-16-mobile@listserv.ieee.org>
> > To: <STDS-802-16-MOBILE@listserv.ieee.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 4:44 PM
> > Subject: [STDS-802-16-MOBILE] [Harmonization] MBS Harmonization
> >
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I have uploaded the initial draft for MBS Harmonization on the upload
> > > server.
> > > I showed in this draft how many comments on MBS were given.
> > >
> > > For conference call of MBS only, what I heard from the chair of
> > > Harmonization is that
> > >
> > > Time: August 5(Thursday), 3:30 PM (PST)
> > > Bridge Information: Chair will give information ASAP.
> > >
> > > If anyone have a contribution with MBS, then please upload it on the
> > server
> > > before the meeting.
> > >
> > > Thank,
> > >
> > > Yong Chang/Ph.D
> > > Samsung Electronics, LTD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>