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Re: [STDS-802-16] SPAM-LOW: RE: [STDS-802-16] [TGm] Editorial comments in SDD commentary DB, revision 1



Title: [TGm] Editorial comments in SDD commentary DB, revision 1

See my prior message regarding the femto cell comments.  Until the SRD CR is approved, these comments remain out of scope.

 

Brian

 


From: Phillip Barber [mailto:pbarber@BROADBANDMOBILETECH.COM]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:30 PM
To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] SPAM-LOW: RE: [STDS-802-16] [TGm] Editorial comments in SDD commentary DB, revision 1

 

Hua,

 

I cannot tell why your comment 093 was mislabeled as ‘Security – MAC’. It appears that the material clearly is on HARQ section 10.2.3. I have talked with Ron Murias, one of the HARQ RG Chairs, and he does not believe your comment 093 covers current work in the HARQ RG. So we will reclassify your comment 093 as ‘SDD Cleanup – MAC’.

 

Also, on your comment 107, I find the same problem. 107 will be reclassified to ‘SDD Cleanup – MAC’.

 

On your comments 567 and 568 on Femtocells, current work to resolve the SRD CR on Femtocells at this Session is irrelevant when assessing the disposition of your comments. There is no TGm Call for Contributions and Comments element that requests the addition of a new section for Femtocells, between the existing sections 16 and 17. There is no CfC&C element that provides for contributing such work.

 

Nevertheless, if a preponderance of TGm participants wish to review and resolve your comments 567 and 568 then I have no doubt that we will do so. The best way for participants to indicate their interest is to supply Reply Comments to these comments indicating that they should have their tag changed to ‘SDD Cleanup – MAC’, and that they want the comments reviewed as part of the SDD comment resolution.

 

Thanks,
Phillip Barber
Chief Scientist
Wireless Advanced Research and Standards
Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.


Rapporteur Group Chair Coordinator, IEEE 802.16 TGm


From: Xu Hua-QA1359 [mailto:Hua.Xu@motorola.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 5:25 PM
To: Phillip Barber; STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [STDS-802-16] [TGm] Editorial comments in SDD commentary DB, revision 1

 

Thanks Phil.  As long as these three comments get discussed with the other MAC Idle Mode contributions, I am fine with the marking you see appropriate. 

 

For my comment 093 on HARQ ARQ interaction, do you see a better fit for HARQ group instead of security group?

 

Also I have two Femtocell related comments, 567 and 568, which are currently being marked as "out of scope".  As you know, SPWG has been discussing Femtocell topics for a long time. Intel, Sprint, KT, Comcast, Alcatel Lucent, ZTE, Fujitsu, Wipro Technologies also submitted a contribution (C80216m-08_1157.doc) to this meeting requesting SRD changes to support Femtocell.  Since Femtocell has many unique characteristics, it is hard to insert pieces into the current SDD framework.  What we are proposing in these two comments are

1.  Create a new section in SDD to address Femtocell issues.

2.  Propose high level design philosophy into the newly created Femtocell section.

Would it be appropriate to mark them as "SDD Cleanup - MAC"?

 

Thanks.

Hua Xu

Motorola

 


From: Phillip Barber [mailto:pbarber@BROADBANDMOBILETECH.COM]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 3:53 PM
To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [TGm] Editorial comments in SDD commentary DB, revision 1

Hua,

 

Your Idle Mode comments 034, 035 and 036 were originally assigned the tag of ‘MAC: Idle’, which is a tag reserved for the output of Idle Mode Rapporteur Group. Thus your comments were assessed as ‘out-of-scope’ because there is no place in the TGm Call for Contributions and Comments for you to respond by filing comments on Idle Mode as an independent topic.

 

Based on your email, I believe your intention was to file these comments as ‘SDD Cleanup – MAC’ on section 6.4, which is within the scope of the portion of the CfC&C:

This announcement requests for text describing detailed technical solutions that are consistent with the SDD and are suitable for submission as part of an ITU proposal. The details are requested on the following sections:

Newly accepted text output from the Rapporteur Groups in Session #56, primarily in Sections 4, 6 [emphasis added], 8, 10 and 11.

 

So we will convert the tags for your comments 034, 035 and 036 to ‘SDD Cleanup – MAC’.

 

Your comments will undoubtedly be resolved at the same time as the Idle Mode RG comment 104, with the associated contribution C802.16m-08/1128.

 

Thanks,
Phillip Barber
Chief Scientist
Wireless Advanced Research and Standards
Huawei Technologies Co., LTD.


Rapporteur Group Chair Coordinator, IEEE 802.16 TGm

 


From: Xu Hua-QA1359 [mailto:Hua.Xu@MOTOROLA.COM]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:48 PM
To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-16] [TGm] Editorial comments in SDD commentary DB, revision 1

 

Dear Shkumbin, Phillip, and All,

 

Appreciate the work you have done.

 

I have three MAC-Idle mode related comments: 034, 035, 036.  I don't know why they are being marked as "out of scope".  High level design philosophy on paging group, paging area, and paging interval are well within the idle mode group discussion.  In our opinion, they should belong to MAC-Idle Mode.  Please reconsider it.

 

My other comment 093 addresses the HARQ ARQ interaction, which currently being marked as Security-MAC.  Would it be better fit for HARQ group discussion?

 

Thanks.

Hua Xu

Motorola

 


From: Shkumbin Hamiti [mailto:shkumbin.hamiti@NOKIA.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:45 PM
To: STDS-802-16@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [STDS-802-16] [TGm] Editorial comments in SDD commentary DB, revision 1

Dear colleagues,

I have just uploaded the Rev 1 of the SDD commentary DB, the IEEE 802.16m-08/034r1. You can find it here: http://dot16.org/ul//upload/TGm_db/802.16m%2d08_034r1.zip

This revision contains one file that I had missed in the first upload and few other files that were uploaded late.
In addition, and quite important, you will find a classification of comments. Please note that for those comments that had no classification by the author I have assumed a certain tag. I expect that there may be some misallocations, so I kindly ask you to check and if you disagree please let me know and I will correct it.

There are 160 editorial comments, and as usual there will be a motion to approve all of them in a batch. Since we would like to have this motion proposed quite early in the session I kindly ask to check the comment numbers below and let me know if you disagree on any of those.

Here is the rough text that will be proposed as a motion:

To accept the following list of comments in the IEEE 802.16m-08/034r1:
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 13, 14, 15, 19, 21, 30, 37, 38, 42, 44, 51, 91, 111, 112, 115, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 139, 141, 143, 144, 146, 148, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 157, 167, 168, 173, 174, 176, 177, 178, 180, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 190, 191, 192, 193, 196, 197, 200, 201, 204, 205, 206, 208, 209, 210, 211, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 219, 222, 223, 226, 228, 230, 232, 234, 235, 239, 246, 252, 254, 256, 258, 259, 260, 265, 274, 289, 290, 304, 305, 308, 316, 319, 336, 339, 340, 342, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 360, 361, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 372, 373, 374, 376, 378, 379, 380, 381, 382, 384, 387, 388, 400, 405, 419, 432, 445, 446, 457, 459, 465, 469, 475, 525, 543, 576, 578, 579, 596,

and authorize the editor to implement those changes in the next issue of the SDD

Kind regards,
Shkumbin Hamiti
SDD Editor