Re: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
Gerald:
If we want to all end up on the same page, we have to start on the same
page. If we all have different opinions of what comprises a control
channel, how can we decide if it should be wired or wireless? There are
a lot more traps where that one came from if we don't have a set of
terms that we all agree on.
Rich Kennedy
Standards Manager
Research In Motion
+1 (972) 207-3554
rikennedy@xxxxxxx
IEEE 802.11 to 802.18 Liaison
IEEE 802.11 Regulatory Ad Hoc Committee Chair
Wi-Fi Alliance Regulatory Task Group Chair
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Chouinard [mailto:gerald.chouinard@xxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:33 PM
To: Richard Kennedy
Cc: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
Rich,
I agree. I am also not too comfortable with the term "control
channel". It should really be a means of exchanging information between
TVBD devices, either through the backhaul or over the RF medium to help
coexistence but not a channel where an entity of some sort would control
the use of the RF medium by the TVBDs. We need a bit more discussion on
this before a meaningful straw poll.
Gerald
At 14:19 2009.08.10, Richard Kennedy wrote:
>We can discuss this on the call, but when I hear the term Control
>Channel, as I have seen in at least one presentation, I think a
separate
>channel for control purposes only. If there is an Internet connection
>as part of the network, what is the need for a separate channel for
>control?
>
>If the Internet connection can be considered the Control Channel, then
>why a separate channel for control?
>
>Maybe we first need a definition of terms. That way we are all voting
>on the same thing. Anyone wanting a separate Control Channel could
look
>at this poll and say it looks like everyone wants a separate control
>channel, which I don't think is the case.
>
>Rich Kennedy
>Standards Manager
>Research In Motion
>+1 (972) 207-3554
>rikennedy@xxxxxxx
>
>IEEE 802.11 to 802.18 Liaison
>IEEE 802.11 Regulatory Ad Hoc Committee Chair
>Wi-Fi Alliance Regulatory Task Group Chair
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gerald Chouinard [mailto:gerald.chouinard@xxxxxx]
>Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:09 PM
>To: Richard Kennedy; STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
>
>Rich,
>
>I guess we need more information on the "No control channel " option
and
>
>how this can meet the database/sensing requirements of the FCC R&O
>08-260. The assumption is that if database access and/or sensing is
>needed
>for protecting broadcast incumbents, the same means could be used for
>coexistence. The "No control channel" option would tend to indicated
>that
>such means to protect the broadcast incumbents would not be available
>implemented. Can you clarify what you have in mind?
>
>Once this is clarified, then Steve could possibly initiate a new straw
>poll.
>
>Gerald
>
>
>At 13:43 2009.08.10, Richard Kennedy wrote:
>
> >How many for No Control Channel ?
> >
> >
> >
> >Rich Kennedy
> >
> >Standards Manager
> >
> >Research In Motion
> >
> >+1 (972) 207-3554
> >
> >rikennedy@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >IEEE 802.11 to 802.18 Liaison
> >
> >IEEE 802.11 Regulatory Ad Hoc Committee Chair
> >
> >Wi-Fi Alliance Regulatory Task Group Chair
> >
> >
> >
> >From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:27 PM
> >To: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
> >
> >
> >
> >We have the following results so far,
> >
> >
> >
> >Over what physical link should the TVWS control channel operate?
> >
> >
> >
> >Backhaul Only
> >
> >3
> >
> >Wireless Only
> >
> >2
> >
> >Both
> >
> >30
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems that both is winning by a landslide!
> >
> >
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >From: Shellhammer, Steve [mailto:sshellha@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 2:02 PM
> >To: STDS-802-19@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [802.19] TVWS Control Channel Straw Poll
> >
> >
> >
> >All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I have updated the TVWS Control Channel straw poll.
>You
> > can specify: backhaul only, wireless only, or both.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
><http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=RPevuJvxGAG59HpNs7OvYQ_3d_3d>htt
>p://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=RPevuJvxGAG59HpNs7OvYQ_3d_3d
> >
> >
> >
> > Please fill it out and we will discuss on Tuesday.
> >
> >
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
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