Re: [802.19] Final candidate document for 3GPP LAA Workshop
Thanks Andrew for all of your work integrating these slides, looks great!
Woon-Hau,
Regarding the CoX testbed slides, this is good feedback, here are a few thoughts:
> As for the testbed slides, it may be a tad early to present this.
I think these slides are well timed for a few reasons:
1) LTE-LAA has an incentive to demonstrate that their CoX mechanisms work ASAP.
There was a strongly worded letter from the FCC regarding LTE -U published on Aug 5th (http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=60001096908). There is also increasing pressure from industry groups to work on this issue, which will likely be part of the workshop. Judging by how LTE-U proceeded, I expect it is already on the LTE-LAA timeline to publish data on LTE-LAA/Wi-Fi interactions with real devices. Their data will be stronger if they leverage 802's expertise, which is why I think 802.19 should help lead that discussion.
2) We may not have another opportunity
The LTE-LAA standard will be defined in December, and since it can potentially threaten 802.11 I think it makes sense to be proactive about suggesting ways in which 3GPP can be invited to continue to work with us.
> The whole presentation has a message of "Let's work together on LAA", while the testbed slides are on what to do AFTER they've agreed to work with us
Andrew has done a great job with his messaging of collaboration, and my intention is to continue that theme with these slides. To roughly quote Andrew here, collaboration is more than just being invited to a workshop, it's a more involved conversation with a common goal of moving the discussion forward. These slides represent a path to move the groups towards this collaboration; that being said, they may not accept this proposal but it shows that we are thinking about it.
I look forward to discussing this more on the call.
Thank you,
Ben Lampert
Sr. Engineer
octoScope
-----Original Message-----
From: Woon Hau Chin [mailto:w.h.chin@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 7:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [802.19] Final candidate document for 3GPP LAA Workshop
Hi Andrew,
Thank you for putting in so much effort into this. Just two comments:
On page 44 and 50, there are names and names of companies. As this is a presentation by IEEE 802, no names or companies should be present, and the whole slide deck should be presented by one single person in a coherent way.
Following the above comment, the sections from slides 44 to 53 may distract the presentation from its original message. I would suggest that these slides be used as backup, and only presented if time allows. While I totally agree with Roger's concern that there may be feasibility issues with LAA in macro cell scenarios, it may be counter-productive to state them here. I suspect that 3GPP may not take it too well if they are told that there are problems with their scheme in an official IEEE 802 presentation.
As for the testbed slides, it may be a tad early to present this. The whole presentation has a message of "Let's work together on LAA", while the testbed slides are on what to do AFTER they've agreed to work with us. Also, the testbed slides also sits more on the compliance side of things, and would probably be more suitable for presentation by WFA than IEEE 802.
Just my 2 pence, we can discuss this during the telco today.
Woon-Hau
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Andrew Myles (amyles) <amyles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> G’day all
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> I have created a final candidate document for consideration by the
> IEEE
> 802.19 WG l tomorrow as IEEE 802’s submission to the 3GPP LAA Workshop
> in late August.
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> · See 19-15-0069-00
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> It consists of multiple parts
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> · Slide 1 is the title page
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> · Slide 2 is a short summary of the entire document
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> o It is new material, as promised last week
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> o It focuses on the need for collaboration to solve a joint problem
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> · Slides 3-43 is the presentation that we have been refining since
> the Hawaii plenary
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> o Slide 4 is the ExSum
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> o Slide 42 is the Conclusion, which is almost the same as the ExSum
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> o Slide 43 is a backup (with animation)
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> · Slides 44-49 is Roger Marks’ presentation
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> o Roger, I did some editorial stuff, including a new title – please feel
> free to reject anything I did
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> · Slides 50-53 is Ben Lampert’s presentation
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> o Ben, I did some editorial stuff, including a new title – please feel
> free to reject anything I did
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> I believe we have caught all the significant issues over the last few weeks.
> I suggest we approve the deck on the understanding that any
> outstanding editorial issues can be handled during the IEEE 802 EC approval process.
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> Andrew
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