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 Hi 
Vikrant, 
  
Yes. 
That information would be helpful at a later stage, and for the implementation 
eval. However, as agreed in the teleconf that the simulation/performance measure 
would not be done at this stage for the eval criteria. The main point is that we 
could not agree on a set of paramemters/measures without some understanding of 
the basics first. Look at other groups' experience, those eval criteria with 
simulation parameter details usually took a long time to develop, some even over 
a year. That is why we are trying to avoid it being done at this stage. Or, has 
the group changed the view on this? 
  
cheers 
  
Cheng 
Hong  
  
  
  
  Hi, 
    
  I think its a 
  valid point. However documenting basic applicability statements for key meta 
  usage models, performance measures etc. would not hurt. They could give 
  experimenters a basic foundation on which to base their experiments and impose 
  some uniformity in the way experiments are run and results reported. Probably 
  would make the task of evaluation a bit simpler. 
    
     
  _________________________________ Regards, Vikrant.
  
  
    
    
    Hi 
    Nada and all, 
      
    I 
    thought the discussion was concluded that we need some basic set of 
    scenarios to help us deciding what/how many call flows diagrams to 
    provide.  
      
    However, it seems that the usage scenarios mentioned in the 
    below e-mail are some specific scenarios for simulation/implementation 
    with some specific details, e.g. application, traffic characteristic, 
    performance measures. I think that is beyond what we need at this stage, 
    instead is more for what you said "at a later stage - after harmonization has 
    occurred"  What's more I think it would be hard for the group to agree 
    on the details of the scenarios at this stage, e.g. 1, 4&5 of your 
    list, since there could be many variations of those parameters which are 
    upto deployment and implementation.  
      
    So, I feel we should concentrate more on the basic of the scenarios, 
    e.g. what is the network relationship, who initiates the handover (e.g. 
    network init, terminal init), i.e. item 2 & 3 and others. How do you 
    think about this? 
      
    Cheers 
      
    Cheng Hong 
      
      
      
    
      
      Dear all,
  To follow-up on our 
      telecon discussion this morning, the evaluation ad hoc group would like to 
      solicit volunteers to develop  a set of usage case models & 
      scenarios to be included in the evaluation guidelines 
      document.
  Although the consensus was that no 
      performance analyses, modeling, and simulation results will be required 
      for the proposal down-selection process, there is some value to develop 
      template scenarios in order to allow for simulation  modeling / 
      prototype implementation at a later stage - after harmonization has 
      occurred.
  Usage scenarios should include enough details to allow 
      for an experimenter to collect performance measures using either 
      simulation, mathematical modeling, or prototype implementation, to 
      replicate and compare results.
  Typically usage scenarios consist 
      of::
  1) Description of the application or traffic characterization: 
      e.g. voice, video, file transfer, email, etc. 2) Network topology: 
      number, type, location, coverage of access networks (802.11, 802.16, 
      cellular, etc.), location of mobile node or multi-interface terminal 
      (distance from access network). 3) Mobility or handover model : 
      description of  a path  from one access network to the other. 
       4) Meta usage models eg. residential, office, airport, train., that 
      would associate a set of parameters to the above  three 
      elements. 5) Performance measures 6) whatever else you think may be 
      needed
  If you're interested in contributing to this effort please 
      send your thoughts to the reflector.
  Reijo Salminen has graciously 
      agreed to consolidate the ideas and input received and fold that into a 
      section on usage scenarios in the evaluation guidelines document. 
      
  Best Regards,
  nada
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Manager, High Speed Network Technologies Group
National Institute of Standards and Technology
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Gaithersburg, MD 20899
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