Re: [802.21] AW: [802.21] Ad hoc telecons
Kalyan,
Thanks for the clarification. However, I am little bit confused with
your Protocol and Transport examples.
My understanding is that 802.21 needs to either work with IETF for
defining the IS protocol or choose an existing protocol to support the
IS query/response mechanism. Also if we don't define the protocol
why do we care about transport?
Thanks,
-Subir
Koora Kalyan Com Bocholt wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>just a comment from my side to make couple of things
>clear from our todays telcon. (Or it can also be interpreted
>as clarification needed)
>
>To my understanding, we are getting confused with the terms
>Protocol, Transport and IS content. That could also be a point
>were we got some misunderstanding while speaking about couple
>of things like IS-Protocol w.r.t. discovery.
>
>
>Protocol: set of rules that governs the communications
>between two MIH entities. For IETF it could be L4 Protocol
>(like TCP/UDP) And from my understanding, it is out of scope
>of 802.21 and is IETF scope.
>
>
>Transport: How this protocol is carried between two MIH
>entities. For IETF it could be L3 mechanism like IP. It
>can also be L2 mechanism. It could also be a PPP
>mechanism (don't know where it is discussed). I think this
>is the place where 802.21 can work together with IETF.
>
>
>IS content/packet: It is the information which is embedded
>in the 'Protocol' and 'transported' between two MIH entities.
>This should be the strict scope of 802.21 and not IETF.
>
>Please correct me, if I am wrong. This may clarify some of
>our points from previous discussion.
>
>Thank you.
>Kalyan
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Stefano M. Faccin [mailto:stefano.faccin@NOKIA.COM]
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Oktober 2005 01:13
>An: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
>Betreff: Re: [802.21] Ad hoc telecons
>
>
>Colleagues,
>please find enclosed a brief document for discussion on the IS reference
>model and higher layer requirements. Ajay, can you please assign it a number
>and upload it to the 802.21 directory? Thanks, Stefano
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ext Subir Das [mailto:subir@RESEARCH.TELCORDIA.COM]
>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:43
>To: STDS-802-21@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
>Subject: [802.21] Ad hoc telecons
>
>
>
>Our next higher layer requirements telecon is tomorrow.
>Given that there are lot of discussions going on both in .21 mailing
>list and mipshop mailing list regarding this subject, it is important
>that we finish our requirements quickly. In fact, this the good
>time for us to bring the requirements to IETF since mipshop WG is
>discussing their new Charter. Just to remind the people that we had
>discussed the higher layer requirements in Orange County meeting
>(21-05-0348-01-0000-Req_Higher_layer_IS.doc) and for
>further details pl. refer to the meeting minutes
>
>Here is the agenda and telecon details:
>
>Agenda:
>-- IETF requirements -- 1:30 mins
>-- How to proceed (e.g, Mipshop Charter) -- 30 mins
>
>
>Date and Time: October 11, 2005, 9 AM - 11 AM
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># of Ports: 20
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>PIN: 1913
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>Dial-in number: 732-336-6000
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>Regards,
>
>-Subir
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>Ajay Rajkumar wrote:
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>
>*
>Hi everyone,
>
>At the end of the just concluded Garden Grove session the working group
>approved a set of telecon for the next two months.
>
>Here is the schedule of these telecons again. Please note that all times are
>from 9-11 am EST, which was acceptable to all and seems to be most suitable
>time for all time zones concerned.
>
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>*3GPP2 Liaison Package
>- September 28, 2005
>- October 6, 2005
>- October 13, 2005
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>*3GPP Requirements
>- October 4, 2005
>- October 20, 2005
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>*Higher Layer Requirements
>- October 11, 2005
>- October 25, 2005
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>*802.11 Requirements
>- November 3, 2005
>- November 10, 2005
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>*802.16 Requirements
>- October 27, 2005
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>Communication Model
>- October 18, 2005
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>The telecon bridge number and codes would be announced closer to the
>respective telecon dates.
>
>Best Regards,
>-ajay
>
>Ajay Rajkumar
>Chair, IEEE 802.21 WG
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