Re: [802.21] Ad-hoc Teleconferencec on Communication Model - October 18, 2005
Lets not forget that we have a service provider provisioning steps as part of
the UE policy and consequent decision making policy. See in line comments.
On 10/18/2005 11:00 AM, Srinivas Sreemanthula wrote:
> Subir> Why do we want to restrict this? Our position should be we
> don't care if two IS providers
> want to be in the at same place and provide the same
> info. This will possibly depend upon
> their business model, pricing etc. It is upto the UE
> and the network operator to choose
> the right one and most likely it will be governed by
> the policy .
Agree, it should be part of the UE policy as assisted (or dictated) by the
service provider that provisioned the user.
> Subir,
> I agree with you that you can have multiple IS servers, there are
> abosuletely no restrictions. You stated it youself, 'choose the right
> one' for the UE to use, either by UE or the network.
Choose one or combine inputs as assisted/dictated by the service provisioner
policy. Lets not restrict it to "one" only if other info. is applicable, like
free service.
The key is 'one',
> for the type of service, which could be whole or partial. If this is
> restritive, we all should understand the usage scenarios which cannot
> happen due to this.
>
> Regards,
> Srini
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ext Subir Das [mailto:subir@research.telcordia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: Sreemanthula Srinivas (Nokia-NRC/Dallas)
> Cc: STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802.21] Ad-hoc Teleconferencec on Communication
> Model - October 18, 2005
>
>
> Srini,
> One small comment.
>
> Thanks,
> -Subir
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Srinivas.Sreemanthula@nokia.com
> [mailto:Srinivas.Sreemanthula@nokia.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:45 AM
> To: Gupta, Vivek G;
> STDS-802-21@listserv.ieee.org
> Cc: stefano.faccin@nokia.com
> Subject: RE: [802.21] Ad-hoc
> Teleconferencec on
>
>
> Communication Model -
>
>
> October 18, 2005
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> If a UE is connected to a single L2 link
> can we have a MIH
>
>
> PoS in PoA
>
>
> and possibly another L3 MIH PoS
> somewhere else in the network?
> If a UE is connected to multiple L2
> links how is a MIH PoS at
> L3 associated with a network w.r.t above
> restriction?
>
>
> My thought was that the UE may not
> receive CS from multiple MIH
>
>
> entities
>
>
> and UE cannot decide on the info
> authenticity if there were multiple
> sources of IS. I agree with you that
> there is a possibiliy
>
>
> that these
>
>
> MIH services can be shared between L3
> and L2 MIH entities.
>
>
> But it must
>
>
> be in a way that they are not
> conflicting in the offered services. I
> think we should capture this. I was
> thinking about stating
>
>
> generically
>
>
> that multiple MIH PoS can provide
> partial MIH services (IS,
>
>
> ES and CS)
>
>
> but the provided (partial) services in
> such a way they are not
> conflicting with other services offered
> by other MIH PoS. How does
>
>
> this
>
>
> sound?
>
>
> [Vivek G Gupta]
> ...not very convincing.
> It should be left to UE and MIH enabled network
> entities (MIH
> PoS) to discover each other, decide and
> negotiate an
> association. Given that there can well be
> multiple instances
> of such associations and it would be up to the
> UE to select
> and sign up for appropriate services for each
> association and
> also possibly deal with multiple instances of
> such
> associations and individual services.
> Maybe this needs to be better explained in doc.
> I don't have
> any good practical scenarios though.
>
>
>
> Srini)) I need to understand you better. My question is
> - why would a UE
> have two IS providers (MIH PoS) in the same network
> providing same
> information? Why would the UE receive the same CS from
> two different
> MIH PoS? If so, which one is authentic?
>
> Subir> Why do we want to restrict this? Our position
> should be we don't care if two IS providers
> want to be in the at same place and provide
> the same info. This will possibly depend upon
> their business model, pricing etc. It is upto
> the UE and the network operator to choose
> the right one and most likely it will be
> governed by the policy .
>
>
>