Re: [10GBASE-T] EFM OAM...
Jonathan is right. I did not say
> "No, Brad should not worry about OAM in his project"
Furthermore, I agree with the following statements from
Jonathan:
> - OAM is designed to be independent of port type.
> - Yes, 10GBASE-T should support OAM.
> - It (I'm sure he meant 10GBaseT) will have to go
> out of its way not to.
Val Oliva
On Monday, February 24, 2003, at 03:10 PM, Jonathan Thatcher wrote:
>
> Geoff,
>
> Boy, I sure don't get "No, Brad should not worry about OAM in his
> project" from Val's note.
>
> You say (about what Val said?): "...there is significant need for OAM
> that is consistent across 802.3."
> Val said: " OAM is critical for Ethernet, whether it's in [list of
> port types]...."
>
> I agree with both of these.
>
> OAM is designed to be independent of port type. Yes, 10GBASE-T should
> support OAM. It will have to go out of its way not to. But, there are
> certain requirements if it is going to support all the features.
>
> Kevin Daines is presenting an OAM tutorial on Monday night to the
> 802.1 & link security folk. This might be a good thing for the
> 10GBASE-T folk to attend.
>
> jonathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 6:19 PM
> To: Val Oliva
> Cc: stds-802-3-10gbt@ieee.org; Booth, Bradley
> Subject: Re: [10GBASE-T] EFM OAM...
>
>
> Val-
>
> What you are asking for is different than the question Brad asked.
>
> What I gather from what you said is:
> No, Brad should not worry about OAM in his project
> But, there is a significant need for OAM that is consistent
> across
> 802.3.
> Are you volunteering yourself for a new project?
>
>
> Geoff
>
> At 09:48 PM 2/18/2003 -0800, Val Oliva wrote:
>
>
>> OAM is critical for Ethernet, whether it's in 802.3af,
>> EFMA, or even 10GbE. It's important that all of these
>> dot3s have OAM and are consistent.
>>
>> Val Oliva
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 08:32 PM, Booth, Bradley wrote:
>>
>>> Study group members,
>>>
>>> As some of you may know, EFM (Ethernet in the First Mile or 802.3ah)
>>> has
>>> added Operation, Administration and Management (OAM) capabilities to
>>> their specification. Like 802.3af DTE power, the study group needs
>>> to
>>> decide whether or not compliance with 802.3ah is within the scope of
>>> our
>>> effort, and most specifically the OAM capabilities. This relates to
>>> compatability with our existing standards. If there is anyone that
>>> would
>>> like to make presentations for or against compliance with 802.3ah or
>>> 802.3ah OAM, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> Chair, 10GBASE-T Study Group
>>> bbooth@ieee.org
>