Sanjay,
The
task force may adopt a baseline for D1.0, but that doesn't prevent a technical
proposal from being adopted after D1.0. I can understand how this might
seem a bit fuzzy, so let's see if I can clarify a bit more. The task force
can decide to adopt a set of proposals as the baseline for D1.0. It is
possible that after D1.0 is put together that the task force decides to adopt a
technical proposal that "plugs" any holes existing in D1.x. The goal in
Task Force ballot is to review the draft and adopt technical proposals to ensure
that the draft is complete prior to going to Working Group ballot. For
example, if we decided to add pre-coding after D1.0 was created, we could adopt
a technical proposal to add that to the draft.
Cheers,
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Sanjay Kasturia [mailto:SKasturia@teranetics.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 10:58 AM
To: Booth, Bradley; Jeff Warren
Cc: stds-802-3-10gbt@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Clarification on minutesBrad, Jeff,Thanks for the clarification. I understand that D1.0 happens after >=75% consensus and that is the criteria rather than time. Though you probably still don't want to show the last technical proposal coming in after Draft 1.0.Regards,Sanjaycell (650) 704-7686office (408) 653-2235
From: Booth, Bradley [mailto:bradley.booth@intel.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:11 PM
To: Jeff Warren; Sanjay Kasturia
Cc: stds-802-3-10gbt@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Clarification on minutesJeff,Thanks for the information.A clarification for everyone: the creation of D1.0 is very dependent on acceptance (>= 75% consensus) of a technical baseline. In other words, the schedule may vary depending on the needs of the project. The first milestone is to develop a technical baseline.Thanks,BradChair, 10GBASE-T Study Group-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Warren [mailto:IEEE@nc.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2004 8:30 AM
To: Sanjay Kasturia; Booth, Bradley
Cc: stds-802-3-10gbt@ieee.org
Subject: Re: Clarification on minutesSanjay,On page 5 of my 10GBT November 2003 minutes http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/10GBT/public/nov03/minutes_1103.pdf look at the finer granularity timeline for the next 6-months. This is the best source of information we've seen from our 10GBASE-T chairman Brad Booth on what will happen in 1H04.In particular the 10GBASE-T Task Force will entertain technical presentations (Proposals) during a number of interim (e.g. January, April, May) and plenary (March, July) meetings that form the baseline set of presentations (technically agreed upon material, 75% or better by TF vote). These presentations typically find their way into a "Blue Book" that in the past has been published by a Technical Alliance.
- These agreed upon proposals will be incorporated in the Draft 1.0 of the "10GBASE-T Task Force Proposed Standard". They are the foundation of the 10GBASE-T standard. Once incorporated into the draft standard it will be very difficult to remove them, however another TF vote of 75% or greater can alter or remove any portion of the evolving draft standard.
The 0.9 draft is just an internal draft for TF edification; it's an aid to get D1.0 done on time - we'll capture as much agreed upon material as possible in D0.9 in an attempt to lock down the non-debatable material.As far as the "Last Technical Proposal" for D1.0 ONLY I think you have a point here, that would most likely be presented during the July 2004 Plenary meeting, not after the July meeting. The actual draft 1.0 would be created after the July 2004 plenary meeting and it would incorporate all technical changes that were agreed upon up to the close of the July 2004 plenary meeting. Closure of some editorials may slip outside this July meeting; the various editors will resolve them. We would use draft 1.0 during our 2004 September interim; this is where the fun starts managing the 10GBASE-T comment database.As for the "LAST Technical Change" just prior to the 2005 July plenary (this is most likely during the 2005 May interim) think of this as our current stake in the ground for final closure of the technical content for the standard. After this point in time the TF is in a FIX IT mode, not allowing feature creep to kill the standards progress during the final 1-year stretch to the finish line where the standard is finished from a TF perspective.I hope this helps. We're going into a 6-month phase now of a LOT of technical work is ahead of us. Having a high focused and managed "10GBT Technical Alliance" would have helped but there was no interest in forming this technical forum so we'll have to do all this work within the IEEE venues. I'm sure we'll have a number of volunteers to host non-IEEE sessions at their respective company locations as an alternative to a well managed technical alliance.Cheers,- Jeff Warren (10GBT SG Secretary)----- Original Message -----From: Sanjay KasturiaTo: Jeff Warren ; Booth, BradleySent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:44 PMSubject: Clarification on minutesBrad, Jeff,The minutes of the Albuquerque meeting that have been posted have items on the time line (page 5) that seem inconsistent with the guidelines present in Brad's overview presentation. See figure from Brad's presentation slide 13:This shows that a proposal has been selected by the task force before Draft 1.0.The minutes, however, show on page 5 that the last technical proposal can come in after the July meeting after draft 1.0 is ready.
Can you clarify?Thanks,Sanjay Kasturiacell (650) 704-7686office (408) 653-2235fax (408) 844-8187Teranetics Inc.2953 Bunker Hill Lane, Suite 204Santa Clara, CA 95054
