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[8023-10GEPON] Ad hoc on 10GEPON channel model



Dear all,
so far, 10 people registered for participation in the 10GEPON channel model ad-hoc. Here is the complete list:
 
1. Marek Hajduczenia (chair), Siemens Networks S.A. (marek.hajduczenia AT siemens.com)
2. Glen Kramer, Teknovus Inc. (glen.kramer AT teknovus.com)
3. Frank Effenberger, Hauwei (feffenberger AT huawei.com)
4. Sergey Y. Ten, Corning, (TenS AT Corning.com)
5. Keiji Tanaka, KDDI Labs, (kj-tanaka AT kddilabs.jp)
6. Eric Lynskey, Teknovus Inc., (eric.lynskey AT teknovus.com)
7. Paul Kolesar, CommScope Enterprise® Solutions, (PKOLESAR AT systimax.com)
8. Tsutomu Tatsuta, NTT, (tatsuta AT ansl.ntt.co.jp)
9. Robert Lingle, OFS Optics, (rlingle AT ofsoptics.com)
10. Dawe Piers, AvagoTech, (piers.dawe AT avagotech.com)
 
I would like to first thank everybody for their will to participate. Let's hope that this ad-hoc is as successful as the last one.
 
Regarding the tasks related with this particular ad-hoc, I would like to suggest some of them. Please feel free to provide any comments / feedback / suggestions.
 
Task 1: Channel model definitions:
    - conformance between 802.3 definitions and channel model spreadsheet
    - establish definitions for loss budget, channel insertion loss, power budget margin and its individual components
 
Task 2: Identification of necessary channel model extensions to be included in the new spreadsheet
    - non-linear transmission channel impairments (e.g. SBS?)
    - RF video overlay (?)
    - realistic PSC loss modelling
    - any other ?
 
Task 3: Overhaul of the Excel spreadsheet and update to meet requirements of the 10GEPON
    - separation of the parameter sheet and results sheet to increase readability ...
    - add missing channel impairment parameters (e.g. SBS threshold)
    - add RF channel modelling and include all related transmission impairments (+ penalties)
    - add PSC component modelling as well as include PSC loss in the channel model
    - any other which are identified by the ad-hoc
   
Task 4: Model compatibility issues
    - is Excel spreadsheet sufficient to model all the effects in 10GEPON system?
    - what are other options for publicly available software which could do the job better?
    - do we need to improve the modelling precision to remove 1-2 dB overshoot which was signalled in the case of 10GE links ?
    - any other compatibility issues ?
 
I would appreciate if the participants could identify the tasks which are of their primary interest. Feel free to email me with any suggestions regarding changes, wording, addition of tasks etc.
 
If possible, I would also like to start the discussion on the defintions of individual channel parameters, since it was suggested that we ought to clarify finally concepts like channel insertion loss and whether power budget margins should be internally divided into channel insertion loss margins and other components related with Rx/Tx equipment. I would like to suggest discussion based on the presentation from Tanaka-san, available at: http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/av/public/2006_11/3av_0611_tanaka_1.pdf
 
I am looking forward to hear Your opinions on this topic.
 
Best wishes
 
Marek Hajduczenia (141238)
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