RE: Jumbo Frames in 10GbE?

[Andrew Smith <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

My point was that it is something of a stretch from a draft submission on
encapsulating routing protocols to Jeff Caruso's article surmising that this
indicates broad IETF support for jumbo frames. It's also a pretty large leap
for you to call it "the new standard": let's leave marketing-speak out of
this discussion.

Andrew


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ted@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ted@xxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 11:31 AM
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> ted@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Jumbo Frames in 10GbE?
> 
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> >So that would be the IS-IS working group you are talking 
> about, right? And
> >this protocol is designed for encapsulating big IS-IS 
> routing protocol
> >packets? Not sure I see the connection there with interrupts and bus
> >performance at 10Gbps speeds unless those are *really* big 
> routing tables.
> 
> The impetus for this draft is to carry big IS-IS routing 
> protocol packets.
> Absolutely.  But the proposal does not limit itself to this 
> usage.  Users
> and vendors will be free to use the new standard for whatever 
> they want.
> It describes Jumbo Frames with 802.3 or DIX Ethernet header formats.
> 
> Ted Schroeder
> Alteon WebSystems, Inc.
> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >Just as a point of information, the "IETF document" in 
> >> question is a private
> >> >individual's submission as an "internet draft" - it has no 
> >> standing as any
> >> >type of IETF standards' document at this time. It will 
> >> expire in December
> >> >1999 if no further action is taken.
> >> >
> >> >Anyone can submit internet drafts at any time for anyone 
> >> (or, often, no-one)
> >> >to read. As far as I am aware there is no endorsement of 
> >> this draft by any
> >> >of the IETF's working groups, by the Internet Engineering 
> >> Steering Group
> >> >(kind of like the IEEE 802 Exec) or by the Internet 
> >> Architecture Board. Of
> >> >course that might change. It might be a good idea for one of 
> >> the draft's
> >> >authors to step forward and explain to this group whether 
> >> they have any
> >> >intentions of asking any of the IETF's official bodies to 
> >> act further on
> >> >this draft.
> >> 
> >> The Jumbo Frames document has some level of support within the ISIS
> >> working group.  The document is on the agenda in Oslo for 
> review and
> >> a vote on whether it should be placed on the Proposed 
> Standard path.
> >> 
> >> Also, the document has six authors from UUNET Technologies, Alteon
> >> WebSystems, Packet Engines, and Juniper Networks.  The point 
> >> being, it's
> >> not just a single author tossing it out for "no one to read".
> >> 
> >> Ted Schroeder
> >> Alteon WebSystems, Inc.
> >> 
> >
>