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is now uploaded at http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/10G_study/public/email_attach/All_1250v2.xls Presentation explaining it is at http://www.ieee802.org/3/ae/public/mar00/dawe_1_0300.pdf Thank you David, Piers -- Phone +44 (0)1473 465654 or Telnet (31)25654 Fax +44 (0)1473 464965 piers_dawe@xxxxxxxxxxx Agilent Technologies White House Road Ipswich Suffolk IP1 5PB England