RE: WAN PHY name

["David Martin" <dwmartin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Title: RE: WAN PHY name

Rich,

Referring to your list further below:

1. is a proposal for the (b) effort underway in ANSI/ITU.
2. is defined in Norival's document at:



http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/10G_study/public/nov99/figueira_2_1199.pdf

This is the only one on your list that is a proposal to P802.3ae.

3. is a slang industry term with a different interpretation depending on who you are

talking with - it really should not be used.

I hope that clarifies things.

...Dave

David W. Martin
Nortel Networks
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-----Original Message-----
From:   Rich Taborek [SMTP:rtaborek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent:   Friday, April 07, 2000 8:58 PM
To:     HSSG
Subject:        Re: WAN PHY name




Roy,

I believe that you and I agree on something.

You said: "Ethernet over SONET/SDH is the standard that are being developed in
T1X1 and ITU."

I said: "Ethernet Over SONET represents a specific proposal to IEEE P802.3ae to
map Ethernet to SONET."

I believe that the latest reference to the proposal identified in both our
statements above is embodied in:
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/ae/public/mar00/martin_1_0300.pdf. Note
that there have been many, many other presentations endorsing the same general
mapping given to IEEE P802.3ae over the course of the last several months. 

Am I completely lost? Please tell me if the proposal referenced in the link
above is not an active proposal in front of IEEE P802.3? If it's not, then I
don't have to worry about it any more.

Please help me differentiate between all of the following:

a) T1X1.5/99-268r1;
b) Ethernet over SONET/SDH;
c) WAN compatible PHY being developed by the IEEE;
d) "Lite" version of SONET/SDH.

I apologize in advance for my ignorance and any confusion I have caused the
committee.

Best Regards,
Rich

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Roy Bynum wrote:
>
> Rich,
>
> You need to pay more attention, or if you have been paying attention,stop
> generating confusion.  Ethernet over SONET/SDH is the standard that are
> being developed in T1X1 and ITU.  The WAN compatible PHY is being developed
> by IEEE.  The WAN compatible PHY proposal uses a "Lite" version of
> SONET/SDH.
>
> Roy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rich Taborek <rtaborek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: HSSG <stds-802-3-hssg@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: WAN PHY name
>
> >
> > Jay, Martin,
> >
> > I believe that Ethernet Over SONET represents a specific proposal to IEEE
> > P802.3ae to map Ethernet to SONET. Two problems with this:
> >
> > 1) It is not a proposal endorsed by a majority of IEEE P802.3ae members
> > interested in meeting the WAN objectives, nevermind 75%;
> >
> > 2) It is not applicable to supporting native Ethernet over the WAN in the
> > absence of SONET/SDH.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Rich
> >
> > --
> >
> > jay.hoge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > >
> > > How about EOS/S (Ethernet Over SONET / SDH)? The world extends beyond
> North
> > > America.
> >
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