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RE: MMF PMD Selection




Dan,

The worst case 62.5-micron fiber is 160-MHz-km at 850-nm, but 500-MHz-km at
1310nm.  This is why the 1300-nm WWDM PMD will support link distances up to
300m, while the 850-nm WWDM scheme will only support out to 100m.

-Brian Lemoff


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Brian E. Lemoff, Ph.D.
Project Manager
LAN/MAN Optical Technologies
Agilent Laboratories
3500 Deer Creek Rd., MS 26M-9
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1392

phone:  (650) 485-8957
FAX:     (650) 485-3626
email:   brian_lemoff@xxxxxxxxxxx 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: daniel.draper@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:daniel.draper@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 1:19 PM
> To: David Martin
> Cc: stds-802-3-hssg
> Subject: Re: MMF PMD Selection
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I thought I heard a comment during the PMD discussions last 
> week that a
> large percentage of installed fiber was 62.5um 160 MHZ*km.  
> While the 850nm
> CWDM and 1310nm WWDM PMDs presented support this fiber to 
> 100m, it is not
> clear from any of the PMD presentations that they will support this
> installed base to 300m.  Is this correct?  I may have missed 
> this, but what
> exactly is the modal bandwidth assumption when discussing "installed"
> fiber?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Dan Draper
> ___________________________________
> Dan Draper
> Microcosm Communications
> A Division of Conexant Systems, Inc.
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> Hillsboro, OR  97124
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> All,
> 
> 
> In the interest of making progress on the MMF PMD selection, and in
> response to Bill's request for system vendor input, I'll 
> paint a bright
> red target on myself. Here goes.
> 
> 
> Consider the following four distinct applications:
>    1.      Dark fiber/SMF runs up to 40km & WAN interconnect (metro)
>    2.      Dark fiber/SMF runs up to 10km & WAN interconnect (campus
>      backbone)
>    3.      MMF horizontal/vertical runs up to 100/300m (in-building)
>    4.      New fiber (any type: ribbon, MMF, SMF) runs up to 300m
>      (intra-office)
> 
> 
> 
> It is easiest to explain to customers what to deploy when 
> there is a PMD
> positioned to match each application (or ideally one that 
> does all).  I
> voted
> serial 1550 for app-1, serial 1310 for app-2, 1300 WWDM for app-3 and
> left app-4 for the OIF VSR work activity (as we don't have a 
> general intra-
> 
> office interconnect objective, but could adopt/adapt their 
> results in a
> later
> effort).
> 
> 
> So why pick 1300 WWDM for app-3? My thinking:
>    a.      It is the only solution which addresses up to 300m for all
>      installed base.
> 
> 
>      That is really the end of the rationale. However, 
> considering cost
>      arguments:
>    b.      1300 VCSELs are supposedly only 6 months away (or 
> up to 6 years
> 
> 
> away depending on the source), which should make 1300 WWDM cost
> competitive with 850 VCSEL WWDM.
> 
> 
> Now I'll duck & cover.
> 
> 
> ...Dave
> 
> David W. Martin
> Nortel Networks
> +1 613 765-2901
> +1 613 763-2388 (fax)
> dwmartin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> 
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From:   Bill Wiedemann [SMTP:billw@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>      Sent:   Monday, July 17, 2000 9:34 PM
>      To:     stds-802-3-hssg
>      Subject:        RE: what's next ?
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> 
>      Jonathan, Thanks for your clarification on expectations for the
>      interim
>      meeting in September.
> 
> 
>      I think it would be very helpful to have a discussion as to the
>      "systems"
>      vendors desires.
> 
> 
>      For example their interest in the current candidates for 
> the 100 meter
>      and
>      300 meter objectives. 1300WWDM, 850CWDM, 850 serial.
> 
> 
>      What they would "need" to see/understand for these to gain their
>      support,
>      and/or why they never will support one or all of these.  
> My reason for
> 
>      initiating this is that it will be very difficult to get 
> any of these
>      approved unless we meet their expectations. I hope any 
> of these aren't
> 
>      approved as the lesser of evils.
> 
> 
>      Regarding 850CWDM we are planning to make first 
> implementations with
>      duplex
>      SC moving to LC with small form factors.  Our expectation is that
>      small form
>      factor with LC could be available a year from today.  
> First size will
>      be
>      GBIC, electrical interface can be XGMII or XAUI for first
>      implementations.
>      Should we pursue equalization for 850CWDM to reach 300 
> meters over
>      legacy
>      62.5 um fiber?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>      We have had initial discussions with Brad Booth and 
> David Cunningham
>      to be
>      sure that the clauses for WDM implementations keep up 
> with the current
> 
>      progress on serial clauses.
> 
> 
>      Bill Wiedemann
>      billw@xxxxxxxxxxx
>      925-560-1610  X169
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