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RE: Clock Tolerance and WAN PHY




Hello There,
I understand that the "ELETE problem" was not
resolved: Even if you match WAN PHY clocks and SONET
clocks you still need the ELETE. If So: What is the
benefit? 
And:
Since the ELTE can work with LAN PHY, does the
existence of this standard justified?

Thanks,
James


--- "Booth, Bradley" <bradley.booth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
  
> question everything about it.  If we can't justify
> it being in the standard,
> then it probably doesn't belong.
> 
> Cheers,
> Brad
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Bynum [mailto:rabynum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 4:03 PM
> To: Booth, Bradley; HSSG
> Subject: RE: Clock Tolerance and WAN PHY
> 
> 
> Brad,
> 
> Just because the objective was vague doe not mean it
> was without 
> meaning.  By your reasoning, I could just as easily
> state that RL/LF 
> functionality is out of scope, as it was not
> included in the 
> objectives.  Just as the objective for a LAN PHY
> carried with it the 
> inferred lack of need for management overhead, the
> objective for the WAN 
> PHY carried with it the inferred need for management
> overhead.  Please 
> refer back to the all of the traffic on the
> reflector and to the 
> presentations concerning the management overhead
> requirements for a WAN PHY.
> 
> Thank you,
> Roy Bynum
> 
> 
> At 09:53 PM 1/26/01 -0800, Booth, Bradley wrote:
> 
> >To quote the objectives:
> >"Define two families of PHYs
> >- A LAN PHY, operating at a data rate of 10.000
> Gb/s
> >- A WAN PHY, operating at a data rate compatible
> with the payload rate of
> >OC-192c/SDH VC-4-64c"
> >
> >That's all the objective says.  By that objective,
> we could create a "WAN
> >PHY" that that is just the 10GBASE-R PHY pushing
> data onto the fiber at
> >9.58464 Gb/s, without any SONET overhead.  The
> objective was meant to be
> >vague so that the task force had some flexibility.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Brad
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Roy Bynum [mailto:rabynum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 5:59 AM
> >To: rtaborek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; HSSG
> >Subject: Re: Clock Tolerance and WAN PHY
> >
> >
> >
> >Rich,
> >
> >You have a very good a presenting that would seem
> reasonable to those who
> >don't have any experience in attempting to
> implement what you are
> >proposing.  The objectives of P802ae include a WAN
> PHY.  What constitutes a
> >WAN PHY has been explained to the group by those of
> us that have worked in
> >a WAN optical environment.  You keep miss
> representing the requirements of
> >a WAN PHY by presenting a LAN implementation as a
> WAN.  It works very well
> >at confusing those that are attempting to gain an
> understanding of what the
> >issues are.
> >
> >Those of us that have worked in the WAN optical
> environment are not
> >confused by your comments.  Those of us that have
> worked in the WAN optical
> >environment would like to have the opportunity to
> educate those that would
> >actually like to gain a understanding of what the
> real world requirements
> >are.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >Roy Bynum
> 
> 


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