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Re: [STDS-802-3-25G] How to pronounce XXVAUI



Hi Jeff, and others,

use of roman numerals is prevalent in Europe too.  Some of us have even had  brief skirmishes with Latin.

Heard of ‘Elizabeth the second’ ?  It’s written Elizabeth II…..

 

I favour continued use of roman numerals for  nomenclature, consistent with previous names for the AUI interface, because in my experience,  consistency of naming helps the reader of standard documentation.

 

I’m happy with pronouncing it ‘zivowie’ or  ‘X’ ‘X’ ‘V’ –AUI , or 25 –AUI, none of  which takes no longer to say than 25G-AUI.  Personally I wouldn’t worry about it, a ‘received English’ pronunciation will emerge regardless of our hand wringing.  But what’s written on the page should be consistent.

 

For the record, I support the principle of holding a straw poll.  I do not want to waste meeting time discussing this.

 

Best wishes

jonathan

 

 

 

From: Jeffery Maki [mailto:jmaki@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:48 AM
To: STDS-802-3-25G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-25G] How to pronounce XXVAUI

 

Hi,

 

I think if some Italians were to speak up and say that they do not even prevalently know Roman numerals in Italy that we could conclude abundantly the need to drop the use of Roman numerals. I have the impression that only US students are taught Roman numerals.

 

Jeff

 

 

From: Eric Baden [mailto:ericb@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:34 AM
To: STDS-802-3-25G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-25G] How to pronounce XXVAUI

 

I agree we should break the convention.  Roman numerals get very messy, and really long.  25G, or 1.6T will be much easier to manage.

 

Eric

 

From: Brad Booth [mailto:bbooth@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 11:23 AM
To: STDS-802-3-25G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-25G] How to pronounce XXVAUI

 

I agree with Mike; let's break convention. There is no requirement to use Roman numerals. Seriously, when I chose the acronym X-A-U-I and Shimon Muller coined it as zowie, we never had the idea that we'd end up propagating so many Roman numeral variants.

 

What I believe we need to be wary of is how the interface is written and pronounced. The primary reason is to create a simple mapping of the text to the pronunciation for those where English (or American) is not their primary language and for those that are not actively involved in this effort.

 

Thanks,
Brad

 

 

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Mike Dudek <mike.dudek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

And I’d been hoping that we would break the convention  and would verbally use the “25-G-AUI” pronunciation  for clarity of meaning, and include it in the document as 25G-AUI.

 

Mike Dudek 

QLogic Corporation

Director Signal Integrity

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Aliso Viejo  CA 92656

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Mike.Dudek@xxxxxxxxxx

 

 

From: Mark Nowell (mnowell) [mailto:mnowell@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2015 10:33 AM
To: STDS-802-3-25G@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-25G] How to pronounce XXVAUI

 

I shudder at the amount of meeting time we are likely to spend on this topic next week…

 

Kent has a presentation for next week and has been gathering input over the last few months so we can hopefully make a decision after that.

 

With regards to your proposal below, I can see the syllable-efficiency of what you are proposing but worried it has little meaning.  I’d actually been assuming we’d be writing documentation with XXVAUI format for consistency but people would verbally use the “25-G-AUI” pronunciation  for clarity of meaning.

 

Mark 

 

 

 

On 1/7/15, 1:23 PM, "Dan Dove" <dan.dove@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

All,

On the subject of how to pronounce XXVAUI...

For consistency, I think it should be pronounced Zih-Vow-ee. The  first X is pronounced Z as its done in XAUI and the second is silent. This is clean and three contiguous syllables versus "X X Vow-ee" which is three separate terms in sequence and sounds stuttered or "Twenty-Five-Gig-Ow-ee" which is completely inconsistent with precedent.

The only possible point of confusion for my proposal would be if we ever produced a 15G spec, which I think is low risk.

I hope this makes sense to everyone.

Dan Dove
Chief Consultant
Dove Networking Solutions
530-906-3683 - Mobile