| Yuji-san,
We will use the WebEx polling feature for straw polls. Anyone on the call can participate. We guess it will take about 3 or 4 minutes for the first straw poll. Any additional straw polls requested will hopefully only take ~2 minutes. A motion to adopt a baseline will be roll call of 802.3 voting members on the call perhaps 50 names (estimate 10 minutes +). A straw poll makes no decision. Sometimes, a straw poll will be used to help decide what motion to propose in the same or later meeting.
I believe we can specify a connector if the TF wants to do so. Our PAR title and scope only limit us to the Physical Layer which traditionally includes the MDI. In 802.3 we have specified by reference an MDI connector. I now some might argue that connector and media/medium are layer 0 of the reference model, but almost all physical layer projects include specifications for number of connectors with a budget for the connectors and media. The technical experts will individually decide on those specifications and whether the budget for connectors implies a particular type of connector if one isn’t directly with draft specifications and figures or indirectly specified by reference to an external connector specificatoin.
So, as Chair, I would I will allow discussion of whether a connector specification is in our project scope, and similarly would allow a motion to select a baseline proposal includes connector specifications with direct specifications or by reference. (I base this on the fact that during ballot, one responsibility of balloters is to review if draft content is within the PAR scope.) See Std 802.3 7.6, 8.5.3.2 for early connector specifications, 113.8.1, 124.11.3, 125.8 for more recent connector specifications.
—Bob
Hi Bob, Please tell us how to count straw poll today. Is it also roll call for about 80 attendees? I have another question on the purpose of straw poll. Is it just a straw poll? Or does it intend to write connector design in future 802.3cz standard? I think to select butt joint or EBO is too specific, and my understanding is it is out of scope of 802.3cz. We should specify minimum optical requirement for connector, not physical connector design. Best regards, Yuji Watanabe, AGC Colleagues, This is a reminder of our call on 18 November 2020. This will be the third P802.3cz Task Force teleconference meeting held in conjunction with the IEEE 802.3 Working Group plenary session. As a Task Force meeting (not an ad hoc), we will be able to consider technical motions. Our draft timeline puts us at the point where we should be adopting baseline presentations that we can use to put technical content into our initial draft. If you would like to take a straw poll or make a motion, please provide text to me or optionally, reply to the reflector with motion and any additional information you wish to provide other participants. Our TF Secretary has the actual straw poll / motion language already for the following (only summary is provided below): 3. Motion #2 — Begin TF review of draft when D1.0 becomes available. 4. Motion #3 — Adopt timeline. (The actual timeline proposed for adoption in the motion will be the result of discussion on 18 Nov teleconference. Because the meeting is being held as a teleconference, only 802.3 voters will be allowed to make and vote on motions. Anyone can respond to straw polls. When there is no objection, we will adopt motions by unanimous consent, one exception being adoption of any baselines where the motion will be by roll call. I look forward to joining with you on the call in ~21 hours. Chair, P802.3cz Multi-Gigabit Optical Automotive Ethernet
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