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[802.3_SPEP2P] Request to Return Comments #19 (erroneously listed as #18 previously) and #25 to the "EZ" Bucket



Hello Brian and P802.3dg Task Force members,

 

I’m pleased to report that your Editors have found a work-around that will facilitate the character alignment that comments #19 (erroneously listed as #18 previously) and #25 request while maintaining the IEEE 802.3 template CellBody table style. I think the results should satisfy the commenter.

 

Therefore, I would like to request that we return comments #19 and #25 to the EZ bucket with proposed resolution: AIP – License granted to Editors to align symbols in the table as per comment.

 

Sample implementation of suggested Remedy:

 

Looking forward to our call on Wednesday – Val

 

      Valerie Maguire, BSEE

       602-228-7943 mobile

 

 

From: Murray, Brian <Brian.Murray@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2025 12:12 PM
To: STDS-802-3-SPEP2P@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [802.3_SPEP2P] Request to pull comments 18 & 25 from the "EZ" bucket

 

George

 

We can discuss tomorrow and I am sure the editors working in FrameMaker have a much better view of what works. 

 

My thinking was as follows, using 2 characters for each 1T symbol '-1', ' 0', ' 1' and a space to separate results in 17 character per 6-tuple, which aligns with a fixed font.

 

-1  1 -1  1  1 -1, which contains 17 characters, aligns with

 0  0  1 -1 -1  1, which contains 17 characters.

 

Not sure if the fixed font will be preserved in the email reflector.

 

Brian


From: George Zimmerman <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2025 17:01
To: STDS-802-3-SPEP2P@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <STDS-802-3-SPEP2P@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [802.3_SPEP2P] Request to pull comments 18 & 25 from the "EZ" bucket

 

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All – I have received a request to pull comments 18 & 25 from the EZ buck motion.  These comments are about formatting of the tables.  The editors have looked at what results in framemaker and concluded that it not only does not improve the draft, it makes the tables more cluttered. 

 

Specifically, they will be looking to reject both comments with the justification: Fixed font width will not cause the symbols to line up in columns. For example, -1 1 -1 1 1 -1, which contains 14 characters, can never align perfectly over 0 0 1 -1 -1 1, which contains 13 characters, with fixed font width.

 

 

Just a reminder, please look at the EZ bucket comments and forward any that you want to discuss to the reflector.  We will then pull those comments, just as I have now done for the two referenced here.

 

George Zimmerman, Ph.D.

President & Principal

CME Consulting, Inc.

Experts in Advanced PHYsical Communications

george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

310-920-3860

 


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