RE: [10GBASE-CX4] SIGNAL_DETECT
Howard,
Your approach is similar to mine except you assume a worst
case "010101" pattern and I was willing to take advantage of
the fact that the IDLE pattern will contain more low-frequency
content and thus we could increase the amplitude of the
squelch. Your approach allows a shorter time-frame for
detection of the OFF state though.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard A. Baumer [mailto:hbaumer@broadcom.com]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Rogers, Shawn
Cc: 10GBCX4
Subject: Re: [10GBASE-CX4] SIGNAL_DETECT
My $0.02,
I think Shawn has a good point here. The resultant receivers'
sensitivity
could end up quite low and therefore random noise could trigure a
SIGNAL_DETECT. If we were to use the CL 48 state machine fault sections
then
we presuppose there will always be a PMD and a PCS in the same Si.
Another way to look at the problem would be to look at what the
amplitude
of the high frequency signal would be (the "1010...", the transition
..,0,1,...). Allowing for a loss of 16-20dB from transmit mdi to receive
mdi
then we could specify if the receive signal goes above -20dB of the
transmitted
signal SIGNAL_DETECT goes on and if it doesn't for 32ns after that it goes
off.
Howard
"Rogers, Shawn" wrote:
> My $0.02:
>
> I do not see how SIGNAL_DETECT can be specified in terms of a receiver
> sensitivity threshold when, based on data presented, the receive eye will
> likely be completely closed.
>
> Even if not completely closed, there is a high likelihood that the
receiver
> min threshold will be so low that, even after EQ, you will not be able to
> accurately apply a level test to determine whether there is adequate
signal
> to make a decision.
>
> I believe the right approach lies in using the state machines provided in
> Clause 48 to declare a Local Fault condition.
>
> Shawn
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Petre Popescu [mailto:popescu@mail.quaketech.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 12:16 PM
> To: 10GBCX4
> Subject: [10GBASE-CX4] SIGNAL_DETECT
>
> Howard,
> Please find attached the text proposed for SIGNAL_DETECT.
> I found the most appropriate text for our applications in clause
> 39 (1000BASE-CX).
> Regards, Petre
>
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