Re: [802.3_10SPE] 802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc & "10Mb/s Backplane Et

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Hi Peter and all,

This is Niaz Ahmed from Eaton’s MTL Product line. Re patents, there was another slide set that was circulated in your email on August 11 asking for anyone that knows of any Patents that may be relevant to this 10SPE Task Force.

Sorry for the late response but this is just to make you aware that Eaton and Controlled Systems Ltd. (CSL) have been manufacturing Intrinsically Safe Ethernet products (9460-ET range) in collaboration for over 8 years now. The 9460-ET range can deliver Intrinsically Safe (IS) Power over Ethernet (PoEx™) with a single Cat 5e or Cat 6 cable, allowing live connection and disconnection of the end device in Zone 0 and 1 hazardous areas. Please see some product detail in the following links, all these products are PoEx enabled either as source or powered device.

https://www.mtl-inst.com/products/cat/intrinsically_safe_ethernet

An early slide from the 10SPE Task Force in 2016 (attached) shows a concept Intrinsically Safe Power and Data circuit (slide 11) with the Ethernet signals being DC blocked from an IS standpoint using two capacitors – This arrangement of DC blocking with two capacitors (two for IS reasons) in an Ethernet circuit forms the basis of our IS Ethernet Patent (EP1883179B1 attached) and may be relevant for you in moving forward. Our PoEx uses spare cores in the cable for power (with no segregation claimed between power and data cores), 10SPE may propose to use the Ethernet cores for power, but from an IS point of view they are considered the same.

I hope this information will be helpful. Please contact myself and Ian Cooper (@CSL) if you require any further detail.

Kind regards

Niaz Ahmed
Global Product Specialist

Crouse-Hinds Division, MTL industrial networking products

Eaton Electric Limited | Great Marlings, Butterfield, Luton, Bedfordshire, LU2 8DL, UK

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From: Peter Jones (petejone) [mailto:petejone@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 11 October 2017 04:11
To: STDS-802-3-10SPE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [802.3_10SPE] 802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc & "10Mb/s Backplane Ethernet" consensus building call - reminder for Wednesday 11 October

Folks

As a reminder (thanks JD), please review the patent and participation slides before the meeting

· IEEE 802 Participation –

https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0093-05-0PNP-ieee-802-participation-slide-ppt.ppt

· IEEE PRE-PAR Patent Policy – Relevant to "10Mb/s Backplane Ethernet" under NEA AdHoc

https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.pdf

· IEEE POST-PAR Patent Policy – Relevant to work under the 802.3cg 10SPE charter (just in case)

https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.ppt

Thanks

Peter

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Peter Jones

802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc Chair

http://www.ieee802.org/3/10SPE/index.html

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From: Peter Jones (petejone)
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:52 PM
To: STDS-802-3-10SPE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; STDS-802-3-NGECDC@xxxxxxxxxxxxE.ORG
Cc: George Zimmerman <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; John D'Ambrosia <jdambrosia@xxxxxxxxx>; Dylan Walker (dylanwal) <dylanwal@xxxxxxxxx>; Tremblay, David <david.tremblay@xxxxxxx>; Jon.Lewis@xxxxxxxx; mandeep.chadha@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: 802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc & "10Mb/s Backplane Ethernet" consensus building call - reminder for Wednesday 11 October

Hi Folks,

We have a meeting tomorrow morning, 7-9am PT.

So far I have no agenda requests for 10SPE topics, but I anticipate spending 45-60 minutes on the consensus building deck for the "10Mb/s Backplane Ethernet" CFI.

Regards

Peter

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Peter Jones

802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc Chair

http://www.ieee802.org/3/10SPE/index.html

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From: Peter Jones (petejone)
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 11:31 AM
To: STDS-802-3-10SPE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; STDS-802-3-NGECDC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Cc: George Zimmerman <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; John D'Ambrosia <jdambrosia@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc & "10Mb/s Backplane Ethernet" consensus building call - reminder for Wednesday 11 October

Hi Folks,

This is a reminder that we have a combined call for 802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc & "10Mb/s Backplane Ethernet" consensus building Wednesday Morning 7-9am PT, webex details below.

Please send requests for agenda time at least 24 hours before the meeting, and presentations at least 12 hours before.

Regards

Peter

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Peter Jones

802.3cg 10SPE Task Force Ad Hoc Chair

http://www.ieee802.org/3/10SPE/index.html

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