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[802.3_10SPE] comment r02-14



Hi Colleagues,

 

I will not be attending Milwaukee meeting, but wanted to suggest different remedy to comment r02-14 on clause 146.8.1/147.9.1  by  Christopher Diminico (Please see comment at the end of the email) which suggest to add IEC 63171-1 to 8023cg_D3dp2, but does not include IEC 63171-6.   

 

We have had long discussions, various proposals, straw polls, motions and have built consensus, but not fully satisfying  everyone.

I also think IEEE 802.3 should provide some direction  as “may be used” for the eco-system to develop MDI connector/interface. This means we should not over restrict MDI connector by tying to different applications such as  – Automotive, Industrial or Enterprise or any other application as in 8023cg_D3dp1 CL 146.8.1 and CL 147.9.1.

 

Number of task force attendees from  OEMs, Cable, Test Equipment and Connector industries drafted text and built consensus that allows eco-system to use  MDI connector as required by their application built conscious in the sections below.

 

“8023cg_D3dp0 CL 146.8.1  page 153 line 6 to page 155 line 7 AND

8023cg_ D3dp CL 147.9.1 page 200 line 17 to page 202 line 54”

Note: IEC 610176-125 reference needs to be changed to IEC 63171-6  

 

 

Suggested Remedy

 

Take text and figures

“8023cg_D3dp0 CL 146.8.1  page 153 line 6 to page 155 line 7”

 

Insert in 802cg_D3dp2 CL 146.8.1 page 171 line 46 But correct reference IEC 610176-125 TO IEC 63171-6. Editorial license to revise figure numbers as need

……………………………..

 

Take the test and figures

8023cg_ D3dp0 CL 147.9.1 page 200 line 17 to page 202 line 54”

 

Insert in 802cg_D3dp2 CL 146.9.1 page 220 line 45, But correct reference IEC 610176-125 TO IEC 63171-6. Editorial license to revise figure numbers as needed

 

Regards,

Amrik Bains

 

 

 

Cl 146 SC 146.8.1 P 179 L 1 # r02-14

Comment Type TR

*** Comment submitted with the file 101659700003-diminico_3cg_01_0819.pdf attached ***

The continued success of BASE-T technology is largely predicated

on leveraging the cost-effectiveness and plug-and-play simplicity

ensured by compatibility at the MDI. We need to be forward

thinking in developing a compatible user interface for BASE-T1.

The MDI is to specify mechanical compatibility and electrical

specifications not EMC conformance.

Suggested Remedy

146.8.1 MDI connectors -Page 179, Line 1 add text;

Connectors meeting the mechanical requirements of IEC 63171-1

may be used as the mechanical interface to the balanced cabling.

The plug connector is used on the balanced cabling and the MDI

jack connector on the PHY.

Re-instate IEC 63171-1 plug and jack figures from D3.1. with

text below.

Editorial license to revise figure numbers as needed.

The IEC 63171-1 plug and jack are depicted (for informational

use only) in Figure 146-29 and Figure 146-30 respectively,

and the mating interface is depicted in Figure 146-31.

The assignment of PMA signals to connector contacts for

PHYs are given in Table 146-8.

147.9.1 MDI connectors -Page 227, Line 1 add text;

Connectors meeting the mechanical requirements of IEC 63171-1

may be used as the mechanical interface to the balanced cabling.

The plug connector is used on the balanced cabling and the MDI

jack connector on the PHY.

Re-instate IEC 63171-1 plug and jack figures from D3.1. with text

below. Editorial license to revise figure numbers as needed.

The IEC 63171-1 plug and jack are depicted (for informational

use only) in Figure 147-21 and Figure 147-22 respectively and

the mating interface is depicted in Figure 147-23. The

assignment of PMA signals to connector contacts for PHYs are

given in Table 147-3. These connectors should support link

segment DCR characteristics for 1.02 mm (18 AWG) to

0.40 mm (26 AWG) in Table 146B-1.

 


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