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Tom,
I
agree on the need for impartiality. Those in power can all too easily
influence
other
in the group. This can thus lead to products without any
marketplace
support, or technical proposals without tested
viability.
Its
not a question of integrity, which I am not challenging, but simply a
matter
of
efficiency&fairness through impartiality.
DVJ
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Ben:
I disagree! I
believe that the chair should remain impartial
at all times, refraining
from support or opposition of any and
all projects or proposed projects,
thus letting the voting
membership arrive at their own
conclusions.
I would suggest that you look to the conduct of our
previous
chair and our current vice chair for positive role models
with
regard to the conduct and demeanor or the chair.
Thomas
Dineen
Benjamin Brown wrote:
Tom,
These comments are wholly unfounded. Bob has the
utmost
character and always has 802.3's best interest in mind. As
WG
802.3 Chair, Bob should be and is 802.3's biggest fan.
His job is to
promote the Ethernet technology and standard
at every opportunity. When
an idea, like this one or any other,
receives the necessary votes to
warrant a study group, Bob
should be a supporter of it, as he is with all
study groups and
task forces. If he was not a supporter of Ethernet, that
would
me cause for concern. Just because you are not in favor of
this
study group, you should not misinterpret Bob's support
for
partiality.
Regards,
Ben
Thomas Dineen wrote:
Bob:
In regard to Shimon's comment:
You need to lighten up a little, it seems that
your management may be
twisting the cabling a little to tight!
On a
more serious note I am becoming increasingly concerned about
your
partisan positioning and behavior regarding the Congestion
Management Study
Group. As you probably remember from past interactions
I favor a chairperson
who displays a large degree of impartial behavior
in all 802.3 affairs, providing
a passive administration of the
group's business with a maximal concern for
administration within the
group's rules. Personally I am becoming more and
more troubled about
your personal conduct in regard to the CM Project, these
concerns
starting with your ruling on the request for a discrete call for
interest.
I would suggest that you look to your predecessor and you
current vice chair for
positive role models with regard to the conduct
and demeanor or the chair.
Thomas Dineen
Grow, Bob
wrote:
Shimon:
Though I did see the smile after your comment I can't let the
implication go unanswered that I might at some level be less than fully
supportive of this study group. I strongly support its work and will be
encouraging SG renewal in July.
I continue to receive comments about and requests to improve Ethernet
performance for emerging limited topology applications. These requests
invariably are based on the desire to reduce network frame drops or to
improve the latency / latency variance of the network.
I believe there is significant market potential even with fewer switches
than what Gary has proposed as his limited topology. I'm encouraged by
some of the creative thinking about the appropriate scope for an 802.3
project. I think if we continue to refine agreement on the topological
scope for the potential solutions, it will provide a significantly
easier task to evaluate the market potential and desirability of various
alternatives.
--Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Shimon Muller [mailto:Shimon.Muller@Sun.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:07 PM
To: Grow, Bob
Cc: STDS-802-3-CM@listserv.ieee.org
Subject: Re: [8023-CMSG] FW: [802.3] FW: March 2004 IEEE 802.3
Meeting Announcement
My apologies to the CMSG for my oversight in the meeting
announcement
of neglecting to add a paragraph about the Congestion
management study
group.
Some people would call it a Freudian slip... :-)
Shimon.
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