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Re: [802.3_DWDM] Signal Detect follow-up question



Matt,

 

This is an old chestnut.

 

You said: “So a value of OK is not determined simply by detecting a power level of greater than or equal to -30 dBm, it’s also having a compliant 100GBASE-R signal input"

 

No, this is not correct.  The intent of this table is that if you want to guarantee that the device sets SIGNAL_DETECT to OK, then you need to input a signal that is greater than -30 dBm and is a compliant 100GBASE-R signal.  If you input a signal that is greater than -30 dBm and is not a compliant 100GBASE-R signal (e.g. CW light or a 10 MHz square wave) the device is allowed to set SIGNAL_DETECT to either OK or FAIL.

 

This is clarified in the text above the table: “The PMD receiver is not required to verify whether a compliant 100GBASE-R signal is being received.”

 

Regards,

Pete Anslow (pete@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

 

From: Matthew Schmitt <m.schmitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 19 June 2020 01:45
To: STDS-802-3-DWDM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [802.3_DWDM] Signal Detect follow-up question

 

Following up on John’s presentation from last week, I was looking at the text in the current draft, and had a question I am having difficulty finding the answer to within the 802.3 specification.

 

As it stands currently, the text in 154.5.4 states that SIGNAL_DETECT parameter maps to the SIGNAL_OK parameter (which I’m assuming means that SIGNAL_DETECT OK results in SIGNAL_OK of OK).  In Table 154-5, it defines a SIGNAL_DETECT value of OK to be the following:

 

[(Optical power at TP3 ³ minimum average input power [unamplified] in Table 154–9

AND

(compliant 100GBASE-R)]

 

So a value of OK is not determined simply by detecting a power level of greater than or equal to -30 dBm, it’s also having a compliant 100GBASE-R signal input (note that I’m inserting the words “signal input”, since they appear in a similar situation in Table 88-4, although not in Table 154-5).

 

My question then is this:  is there a common understanding of what “compliant 100GBASE-R” (or “compliant 100GBASE-R signal input”) means in this particular case?  If it means that you need to be able to decode an apparently valid signal, wouldn’t that address the issue of a false positive due to an amplifier caused high noise floor?  Or is the meaning something completely different?

 

Thanks for any help in better understanding this.

 

Matt

 


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