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Re: [802.3_B400G_OPTX] P802.3dj Joint Logic/Optics Track June ad hoc meetings announcement

Hi Mark

I fully agree with your stated objective for the Ad Hoc calls.

"The purpose of these ad hoc meetings is allow discussion and contributions on any of these topics."  

The Ad Hoc is a unique opportunity for discussion, because we are not under time constraint as during the interim or plenary sessions.

Given this, I was puzzled by the last logic and optics ad hoc call which prevented discussion and only allowed one clarifying question, with exception for few questioners. The absence of discussion was highlighted by the few back and forth exceptions, for example your colleague Brian Welch and presenter Mike Dudek. Since both are thoughtful individuals, their exchange was worth its weight in gold. It was frustrating when other thoughtful individuals with expertise that I don't have, for example David Ofelt, were cut off from follow up questions. Genuine opportunities to learn were missed. (One odd moment was when David Ofelt apologized to you for starting to ask a second question. It seems like it should have been the other way around.) Personally, I also didn't appreciate being prevented from follow-up with Mike Dudek. The ad hoc call ended 45mins early, which seems like the wrong priority. Full use of the allocated time to facilitate genuine discussion would have been preferable.

Perhaps at the start of the next ad hoc call, we could ask the participants whether we should rush through the presentations to get done early, or manage the time to enable discussion.

Thank you

Chris

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 2:47 AM Mark Nowell (mnowell) <00000b59be7040a9-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This email serves to announce the next IEEE P802.3dj  joint  logic and optics track ad hoc meetings. 

  

Meeting dates, times and deadlines:                         

 

Meeting

Agenda request deadline (5pm PT)

Contribution submission deadline (5pm PT)

Tues Aug 15th,  7am to 10am PT 

Wed Aug 9th

Fri Aug 11th

Tues Aug 29th, 7am to 10am PT

Wed Aug 23rd

Fri Aug 25th

 

 

The call details will be available on the TF website at https://www.ieee802.org/3/dj/public/adhoc/optics/index.html and can be found on the IEEE call and meeting calendar at https://www.ieee802.org/3/calendar.html

 

Coming out of the May plenary meeting, we identified a number of areas where more information is needed or more consensus is needed.  The purpose of these ad hoc meetings is allow discussion and contributions on any of these topics.  We are holding it joint between the optics and logic teams as a number of these topics relate across both areas.

 

The goal will be to enable contributors to better refine proposals or provide information relevant to future decisions ahead of the July Plenary meeting.  With this being an ad hoc meeting, no decisions can be made but informative straw polls are possible.

 

At this point, we anticipate topics to potentially include:

  • Inner FEC padding and synchronization
  • FEC bypass proposal
  • Updates on IMDD optical baseline proposals (nothing adopted yet)
  • Updates on coherent optical baseline proposals (nothing adopted yet here too)

But this is not a complete list of potential topics.

 

 

If anyone, does wish to make a short presentation in line with above please make a request by the dates noted above. Please email myself, Mark Gustlin  (and John D'Ambrosia, please) the following information:

  • Name of presenter
  • Affiliation of presenter
  • Title of presentation
  • Length of time requested (this should include time for questions and answers – presentation time, excluding Q&A, will be at the discretion of the chair, and should be assumed to be limited to 30 min)
  • Brief description of topic

 

The presenter shall e-mail a PDF, soft-copy version of the presentation to me (and John D'Ambrosia, please) in advance of the meeting per above dates.. 

 

All individuals submitting presentations should review the Procedures for Presenters Page: http://www.ieee802.org/3/df/public/presentproc.html

 

Please adhere to the Presentation Style Guidelines.  Also, to support the web site search tool used by the IEEE P802.3 web site the 'Document Information' fields of the PDF file must be completed as follows:

  • Title: Title of presentation
  • Author: Name(s) of author(s)
  • Subject: IEEE P802.3dj Task Force

 

I want to remind all teleconference meeting participants to review the following documents prior to participation in an IEEE 802.3 meeting teleconference:

  • IEEE SA patent policy
  • IEEE SA Copyright Policy
  • IEEE SA Participation Policy

 

All of these policies may be found at http://ieee802.org/3/policies.html

  

Thanks,

 

Mark N

IEEE P802.3dj optics track leader

And  

Mark G

IEEE P802.3dj architecture and logic track leader

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