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[EFM] RE: [EFM-Copper] the merits of 12 kft and +




Frank, Vladimir, Patrick, 

I did not think I am going to agree with you all, but I do. 
Here is my proposal, and I want to thank you guys to put the thought in my
head:

To get maximum customers:
choose maximum reach - 24 kft AWG-24

To get lowest cost installation, lowest CPE cost and configurability and
ease of use:
choose a CPE that can be configured to an ADSL CPE modem, very large volume,
cheap ASP ~ $50

To satisfy ILEC, using DLCs
Use the method proposed by Howard/Hugh/etc

To satisfy the need of data hungry business in MxU:
maximum data rate of 100 Mbits symmetric (LRFE)


And by the way, this is not a theoretical exercise. I know at least one
company that does it all.


Thanks very much
Behrooz


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Miller [mailto:frank@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 3:27 PM
To: 'Vladimir Oksman'; Frank Miller
Cc: 'Behrooz Rezvani'; 'Copper'; 'Hugh Barrass'; 'Howard Frazier'
Subject: RE: [EFM-Copper] the merits of 12 kft


Vladimir,

I fully agree with your conclusions below in that "if we can reach cheap
basic deployments involving many customers it will give a good basis for
business".  The more distance (6000m) means more customers.  Multiple-pair
solutions would also, as you state, raise the cost of the service at least
$20/mo/pair dependient upon tarrifs and would not
be my preference.

I appreciate the work, as a service provider, the efforts of all in the
802.3 EFM study group / task force.

Frank


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vladimir Oksman [mailto:oksman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:36 PM
> To: Frank Miller
> Cc: 'Behrooz Rezvani'; 'Copper'; 'Hugh Barrass'; 'Howard Frazier'
> Subject: Re: [EFM-Copper] the merits of 12 kft
> 
> 
> Frank,
> 
>    actually my experience is saying "the number of potential 
> customers and low
> deployment cost" are the main parameters for success - here I 
> tend to agree
> with Patrick. If we can reach cheap basic deployments 
> involving many customers
> it will give a good basis for business. Further, if upgrades 
> to higher speeds
> and more sophisticated services are available for medium and 
> short reach
> customers - still better.
> 
>     However, I would like to point out that my proposal to 
> expend maximum reach
> up to 6000m (~ 20 kft) has not got almost any support in LA. 
> Here I concluded
> that maybe 12 kft is really more interesting for the business 
> cases people
> consider. Also, using multiple-pair deployments raise the 
> cost for the customer
> (about $20 per pair, right?)
> 
> Vladimir.
>