RE: [EFM] AW: HEADLINE: Oscar Wilde resolves EFM PON timing issues!!!
Vipul-
Be careful here. You are confusing two concepts.
1.
Consensus
2. 75%
Approval
Consensus is a soft threshold that means by dictionary means:
- http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=consensus
- con·sen·sus
- 1. An opinion or position reached by a group as a whole:
"Among political women... there is a clear consensus about the
problems women candidates have traditionally faced" (Wendy
Kaminer).
- 2. General agreement or accord: government by
consensus.
- http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=consensus
- Main Entry: con·sen·sus
- Pronunciation: k&n-'sen(t)-s&s
- Function: noun
- Usage: often attributive
- Etymology: Latin, from consentire
- Date: 1858
- 1 a : general agreement : UNANIMITY <the consensus of their
opinion, based on reports... from the border -- John Hersey> b : the
judgment arrived at by most of those concerned <the consensus was to
go ahead>
- 2 : group solidarity in sentiment and belief
- usage The phrase consensus of opinion, which is not actually
redundant (see sense 1a; the sense that takes the phrase is slightly
older), has been so often claimed to be a redundancy that many writers
avoid it. You are safe in using consensus alone when it is clear you mean
consensus of opinion, and most writers in fact do so.
Achieving the required approval threshold and achieving consensus
are two entirely different things. If all you do is achieve your vote
threshold without achieving consensus you will have (1) an unhappy
balloting process (2) a standard that doesn't have broad buy-in. Just
getting a standard approved does not guarantee success.
Geoff
At 09:59 AM 11/21/2002 -0800, Vipul Bhatt wrote:
The voting count is documented in slides 16
and 17 of
bhatt_optics_1_1102.pdf at:
http://www.ieee802.org/3/efm/public/nov02/optics/
The results speak for themselves. By definition, whenever we reach
75% consensus on a decision, that will be the right decision. I
think our best hope of getting there is to keep trading more
information about various options. I appreciate Tom's initiative of
starting this thread, and I am also looking forward to hearing
Frank's contribution in Vancouver.
Vipul
ps: I took the liberty of pruning the email list of this thread.
=================
Thomas Murphy wrote:
>
> Frank,
>
> I agree with your assessment that the people on the e-mail
> list have a "Option-A" view. However, at the meeting the
voting
> pointed differently. I am trying to remain neutral on this
issue
> but someone please back me up on the way the voting went.
>
<snip>