Re: [802.3_EPOC] Letter for China operarors
Dear EPOC SG,
An issue was raised yesterday about the translation of the last paragraph regarding synergizing EPOC and HiNOC.
I have since determined that Alex Liu (Qualcomm) translated the letter on behalf of the Chinese group.
Accordingly, I requested Eugene to directly clarify the said translation issue with Alex directly. The self-explanatory email exchange is below. Based on this I recommend we interpret the said text as Eugene translated - that the Chinese group is proposing a unification of EPOC and HiNOC as opposed to a common chipset (which was Alex's interpretation as explained below). If anyone else had any other issues with the letter please email Alex so that he can clarify or get clarification from the Chinese group.
That being said, I will compile shortly all inputs I have received from the SG and send out a draft response to be discussed at the ad-hoc over lunch today. The final response will be determined after we go through the motions in the afternoon with modifications as appropriate. We will follow the guidelines that Howard sent out.
Based on responses so far the ad-hoc is:
Jorge, Chano, Marek, Eugene, Bill (Powell), Matt, John (Egan). We will meet over lunch and again at the end of the afternoon session.
Rajeev
-----Original Message-----
From: Liu, Alex
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:08 PM
To: Dai, Eugene (CCI-Atlanta)
Cc: hfrazier@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Jain, Rajeev
Subject: RE: Letter for China operarors
Eugene,
Fully agreed. My translation is not a literal one. If you wish to change the English to reflect the "unified standard" wording in Chinese, I will assent.
I was trying to temper expectations on what could actually be achieved between HiNOC and EPoC. HiNOC is pursuing their own path in ITU, and it will be challenging to actually achieve one standard.
I thought a common chipset between the two standards could be a compromise goal.
Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: Dai, Eugene (CCI-Atlanta) [mailto:Eugene.Dai@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 1:59 AM
To: Jain, Rajeev
Cc: hfrazier@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Liu, Alex
Subject: RE: Letter for China operarors
Please check the translation of the following, the translation does not seems match with the original.
Thanks,
Eugene
3、关于HiNoC与EPoC
这是一个非常重要的因素。HiNoC是中国NGB接入网标准，其目标与EPoC是一致的。我们强烈希望中国标准HiNoC跟IEEE 标准EPoC统一，这对厂商、运营商都有好处，对中国、美国、欧洲、对全世界都有好处。这样可以适应更多的市场需求，而非分割了市场。但中国标准HiNoC要求必须支持TDD，因此我们恳请IEEE充分考虑这种实际情况。
(3) HiNOC and EPoC
The relationship between HiNOC, the indigenous Chinese Next Generation Broadcast (NGB) cable access standard, and EPoC is an important factor to consider in crafting the EPoC standard. We strongly believe that harmonization between EPoC and HiNOC would be highly beneficial to the global industry, as the possibility of having chipsets that support both EPoC and HiNOC would lower costs for the entire supply chain, right on up through to the operators. The HiNOC standard is TDMA/TDD, a fact which we hope will be taken in account in the IEEE.*
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From: Jain, Rajeev [rajeevj@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:12 PM
To: Dai, Eugene (CCI-Atlanta)
Cc: hfrazier@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Liu, Alex
Subject: Letter for China operarors
Hi Eugene,
I just found out that Alex Liu translated the letter. Can you please reply all and explain the discrepancy you brought up in the translation so Alex can clarify.
Thanks,
Rajeev
Alex,
The English version is suggesting that if HiNOC and EPOC are harmonized then the chipset costs would be reduced delivering economic benefit. Eugene raised an issue that the Chinese text does not talk about chipsets at all but only talks about economic benefits of unifying the HiNOC and EPOC standard (without mentioning chipsets explicitly). Assuming Eugene is correct, perhaps you can explain the purpose of the re-interpretation of the Chinese text to include “chipset” in the English text.
I know its late for you but would appreciate an answer today as we are trying to formulate a response. Also if you are aware of any other literal differences between the Chinese and English text, please let us know with appropriate explanation.
Thanks,
Rajeev
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