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Re: [STDS-802-3-MAINT] [P802.3cq] revisiting MR1322



Simplest explanation Geoff is that we thought we had found the path to least resistance. My memory is weak on the whole episode, but we thought deprecating 33.5 solved the problem.

 

What Marek has pointed out to me is that it still means that 33.5 has incorrect information that predates our deprecation date. I made a mistake, and we will work to fix it in the next comment cycle.

 

 

Chad Jones

Technical Leader, Cisco Systems

Chair, IEEE P802.3cq Task Force

Chair, IEEE P802.3cv Task Force

Chair, IEEE SPMD Study Group

Principal, NFPA 70 CMP3

 

 

From: Geoff Thompson <thompson@xxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Geoff Thompson <thompson@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 7:08 PM
To: CQ Maint <STDS-802-3-MAINT@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [STDS-802-3-MAINT] [P802.3cq] revisiting MR1322

 

 

On Sep 12, 2019, at 3:22 PMPDT, Chad Jones (cmjones) <00000b60b3f54e8d-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

All, recall that we considered this comment (attached Maintenance Request) against D1.1. As a result we deprecated 33.5: (NOTE—33.5 has been deprecated. Since May 2019, maintenance changes are no longer being considered for this sub- clause. ).

 

We thought this solved the problem but a discussion with Marek reveals that it hasn’t. YANG was written against a version of 802.3 that predates the AT amendment (so pre-2009)

 

Why was this done?

The YANG project was in WG ballot when the active version of 802.3 was

IEEE Std 802.3 - 2015

according to: 0318_state_of_std.pdf

 

Presumably this should have been called to our attention by the Task Force and addressed then.

 

Geoff

 

and contains pointers to things that no longer exist in the Clause 33 state diagram, specifically ERROR_DELAY_OVER and ERROR_DELAY_SHORT. Clause 33 incorrectly calls these non-existent states. The MR was merely helping us identify orphaned references and how to fix them.

 

Please review the attached MR in light of this explanation. I will file a comment against D3.1 reflecting the MR rationale and suggested revision.

 

 

Chad Jones

Technical Leader, Cisco Systems

Chair, IEEE P802.3cq Task Force

Acting Chair, IEEE P802.3cv Task Force

Chair, IEEE SPMD Study Group

Principal, NFPA 70 CMP3

 


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