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Re: [8023-POEP] Standard IEEE 802.3at Nomenclature



Hi all,

 

My proposal would be:

 

  1. 802.3at PoE is Type 2 PoE, Type1 for 802.3af  for a system (we may keep also the term 802.3af PSE or PD for the sake of old references)
  2. 802.3at PSE is Type 2 PSE, Type1 for 802.3af  PSE
  3. 802.3at PD is Type 2, type 1 for 802.3af

 

4.   Regarding 4P vs 2P:

 

Since 2P is a subset of 4P then I would recommend that:

Type 2 is 4P (for PD or PSE)

Type 3 is 2P (for PD. If committee will decide to support 2P PSE then it is true for PSE as well)

 

      5.  4P Current sharing: Should be simply noted as CS = Current Sharing (also well understood for PS designers)

           It can be active or passive and it is implementation issue.

  1. Magnetic Balancing: May be noted as CB or MB. I prefer MB which is clearer and self explanatory.

 

Yair

 

 


From: owner-stds-802-3-poep@xxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-stds-802-3-poep@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of C S
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 12:51 AM
To: STDS-802-3-POEP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [8023-POEP] Standard IEEE 802.3at Nomenclature

 

The committee has expressed an interest in standard nomenclature to be used in presentations associated with high power PoE. Here I will present some suggested terms to be used in 802.3at. Please respond with your opinion and feedback on the best terms to use.

 

SUGGESTIONS:

 

SYSTEM

802.3at PoE:      802.3af PoE:

Type 2 PoE          Type 1 PoE   ***Note 1

802.3at                802.3af          ***Note 2

AT PoE                AF PoE

.at PoE                .af PoE

PoE+                   PoE

PoE Plus              PoE

PoEp                    PoE

HP PoE                PoE

 

PSE

802.3at PoE:        802.3af PoE:

Type 2 PSE            Type 1 PSE

802.3at PSE           802.3af PSE

.at PSE                  .af PSE

AT PSE                  AF PSE

PoE+ PSE              PSE

PoE Plus PSE        PSE

PoEp PSE              PSE

HP PSE                 PSE

 

PD

802.3at PoE:         802.3af PoE:

Type 2 PD               Type 1 PD

802.3at PD              802.3af PD

.at PD                     .af PD

AT PD                     AF PD

PoE+ PD                 PD

PoE Plus PD           PD

PoEp PD                 PD

HP PD                     PD

 

Notes:

1. Type 1, Type 2, Type 3, etc.

This terminology was well received during the meeting in November. It should be noted that depending on the outcome of committee w! ork, there might be more than 2 types of PSEs, and PDs. I am referring to PSEs that can drive all 4 pair vs PSEs that drive 2 pair. If high-power PoE includes 2-pair and 4-pair PSEs, then type 1, type 2, and type 3 would be well suited. Realize there might be some early confusion because in the near term a 4-pair high power PSE might be referred to as a type 2 PSE. If 2-pair and 4-pair PSEs exist, a 4-pair PSE would probably be better termed as a type 3 PSE. Until the 2-pair/4-pair question is answered, it would be best to clarify what type of system is being referenced.

 

This nomenclature will also work well to help users understand which PDs will work with which PSEs. I.E. Type 1 PDs work with Type 1 and 2 PSEs. Type 2 PDs only work with Type 2 PSEs. It makes sense. If there were 3 types of PSEs and PDs, this same inter-operability tier system would work.

 

2. 802.3af and 802.3at

Vario! us 802 enhancements including 802.3af have used the letter designation successfully in the marketplace and to some extent this helps advertise IEEE committee work. However, it should be noted that the features defined in the 802.3at committee eventually get folded into the 802 specification and all references to 802.3af and 802.3at are lost. It should also be remembered that the 802.3at work will result in a clause that combines both 802.3af and high power PoE systems into one section.

 

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CURRENT BALANCING

There are two types of current balancing that will be discussed in future committee meeting and it will help us if we use a consistent terminology to describe these two different types of balancing.

 

4-Pair System, Balancing current in each of the 4-pair

In a! 4-pair system, current is delivered to the load via 2 pairs (4 conductors) on the top rail. Balancing the current in each pair on the top (or bottom) could be called:

 

Active Load Sharing (ALS)

Active Current Balance (ACB)

Pair-to-Pair Balancing (P2PB)

 

Balancing Current in the Magnetics

In either a 2-pair or 4-pair system, there may be a desire to balance the current in each of the conductors of a single pair. This balancing reduces the offset current in the magnetics and could be called:

 

Magnetics balancing MB)

Inter-pair balancing (IPB)


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