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 Hello 
Here is an extension ot Fred's work. This analytical 
calculation uses Fred's approach but uses a constant power 
PD. 
Thanks 
Anoop From: Fred Schindler (frs) Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:45 PM To: STDS-802-3-POEP@listserv.ieee.org; 'Parker, Tim (SC100:321)'; 'Andrew Smith'; 'Wael Diab'; 'mike@akrossilicon.com'; Hugh Barrass (hbarrass); 'david_lucia@sifos.com'; 'sajol@sbcglobal.net'; 'Dove, Dan'; 'keith@phihongusa.com'; 'Dinh, Thuyen'; 'Patoka, Martin'; 'Daniel Feldman'; Yair Darshan; Anoop Vetteth (avetteth); 'Clay Stanford'; 'Matthew Landry'; 'David_Law@3com.com'; 'Krellner Jan-r35458'; 'david@akrossilicon.com'; 'Riccardo RUSSO'; Huynh, Thong; Youhao Xi; McCormack, Michael; Shinkyo, Kaku; Bill Delveaux (bdelveau); Pavlick Rimboim; Chad Jones (cmjones) Cc: Fred Schindler (frs) Subject: IEEE 802.3at Vport ad hoc Wednesday, May 9, 16: May9 materials Hello, The materials for the May 9, IEEE 
802.3at, Vport ad hoc current limit discussion are 
attached. Thanks,             
Fred PS Meeting details are at the end of 
this email. Hello, An updated ILIM slide is attached. 
 The calculations performed assume that a PD can draw ICUT for TCUT and 
that TCUT is longer than or equal to TLIM.  Therefore, a PD could legally 
draw ICUT constantly even if the PD voltage is increased.  If we do not 
want to allow this we need to put the appropriate language in the 
specification. The PSE can only source ILIM_MIN 
when enough voltage difference exists between the PSE and the PD.  When a 
smaller difference exists, less than ILIM_MIN is sourced by the PSE and the PSE 
is no longer monitoring TLIM.  The PD voltage ramps to it final value 
exponentially from this point forward. The values obtained match IEEE 802.3 
needs and provide a shorter TLIM for IEEE 802.3at (because of the higher ILIM 
and the smaller voltage change). Please provide comments before the 
next meeting on Wed. May 9.  Thanks for helping this specification move 
forward, Fred 
Schindler Technical 
Leader CISCO 
Systems M/S 
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525-9859 PS I would also like to thank Anoop Vetteth for his 
support on this effort. Hello, IEEE 802.3at, Vport ad hoc team 
meetings are scheduled for Wednesday May 9, and 16  (9 AM, PST) to cover 
current limits required for PoE.  Please review the direction we are 
heading at: http://www.ieee802.org/3/at/public/mar07/schindler_2_0307.pdf Please also 
review: http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/poep_study/email/msg00474.html If additional materials are required 
for the meeting they will be sent before the 
meeting. Thanks,             
Fred PS I resent this invitation because 
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