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I have read a lot of conflict over using the "unused" pairs (pairs 3 & 4). Why not do the following. Use pairs 3 & 4 but allow two implementations. Allow both direct use and phantom use. That way people why never intend to implement Gigabit Ethernet (e.g., a small office) can power direct over the unused pairs while people who look to the future can spend a little more and get the phantom solution. Sorry I cannot make it to the meeting. Jack Andresen