----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Static Discharge
 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  
  
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:07 
  PM
  Subject: RE: Static Discharge
  
  Ethernet stuff is not intended to run 
  outdoors like regular telephones. The biggest risk these days is picking up 
  static electricity when the cables are pulled through conduits and wiring 
  troughs. That seems to get worse the better the cabling gets (cat5E and up) 
  due to triboelectricity.
  The insulation scheme was chosen to 
  accommodate ground level shifts within building premises wiring (different AC 
  feeds to different boxes). The wiring cables float (up to 2250 VDC) with 
  respect to ALL of these. There has been much discussion in the 802.3af work 
  group on how to handle DC-powered cables. The 802.3 standard defines two 
  environments ("A" and "B") with respect to port-to-port isolation (See 802.3 
  spec or some of the 802.3af presentations on the IEEE public site).
  You are supposed to used fiber optic 
  links if you exit a building. IP phones are supposed to be within a building, 
  with the only wiring going to an Ethernet hub. Wall warts if used are double 
  insulated.
  The 2kV caps are not supposed to be 
  leaky. 
  Larry Miller 
  
    -----Original Message----- 
From:   Dieter Knollman [SMTP:djhk@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent:   Friday, 
    September 15, 2000 9:53 AM 
To:     stds-802-3-pwrviamdi@xxxxxxxx 
Subject:        Static Discharge 
    Hi, 
    My background is telephony.  I'm totally new 
    to 802.3, so please excuse 
my 
    ignorance. 
One thing that appears strange 
    is the lack of an intentional discharge 
path for the potential on the cable. 
The only means that I have found is breakdown of the common 
    mode 
termination capacitors. 
    
Are these caps with 2 kV rating intended to be 
    leaky? 
    On POTS line interfaces the Tip lead is typically 
    biased around ground 
and serves as a 
    discharge path to earth ground for Analog Sets.  Do the 
    
IP Phones require a discharge path via the 
    LAN? 
    Dieter Knollman 
DMTS 
Lucent 
djhk@xxxxxxxxxx