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For those who have not seen them, there are some interesting presentations for the most recent Residential Ethernet meeting here: http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/3/re_study/public/sep04/index.html -John Gildred Vice President of Engineering Pioneer Research Center USA A Division of Pioneer Electronics 101 Metro Drive, Suite 264 San Jose, California 95110 john@pioneer-pra.com (408) 437-1800 x105 (408) 437-1717 Fax (510) 295-7770 Mobile