Re: [RE] Stream identification at the MAC SAP

[Shvodian William-r63101 <bill.shvodian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard, Actually I did mean 802.2.  Although it is in hibernation, it was reaffirmed last year:
http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/2/

I am not sure where the 5 Criteria rules are stated, but the 5C documents I look at usually say something like this (taken from the 802.3ap 5C document):

Compatibility with IEEE Std. 802.3 Compatibility with IEEE Std. 802.3
Conformance with CSMA/CD MAC, PLS
Conformance with 802.2
Conformance with 802
- The proposed standard will conform to the 802.3 MAC, and therefore will
be consistent with 802.1D, 802.1Q, and relevant portions of 802.1f.
 -As was the case in previous 802.3 standards, new physical layers will be
defined.
- The proposed standard will conform to the 802.3 MAC Client Interface,
which supports 802.2 LLC.

Bill

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From: owner-stds-802-3-re@IEEE.ORG [mailto:owner-stds-802-3-re@IEEE.ORG] On Behalf Of Richard Brand
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 7:11 PM
To: STDS-802-3-RE@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [RE] Stream identification at the MAC SAP


Hello William:
You can't mean 802.2 because that is not a requirement and as well that group is in hibernation so I'd be surprised if they took any action last year.
Do you mean 802.1?  If that is the case support for 802.1 is not a requirement but you have to specify that you specifically do not intend to meet the .1 requirements on the PAR.
Richard

Shvodian William-r63101 wrote:


        I have a general question on the MAC-SAP interface for RE.  All 802 standards are required to support the 802.2 interface.  The 802.2 interface does not provide a way of identifying an isochronous stream to the MAC at the MAC SAP.  When 802.2 was up for reconfirmation last year I suggested that they add a stream identification parameter that could be used for protocols that provide isochronous services like 802.15.3 or now 802.3 RE.  802.2 rejected the comment.
                Has anyone given a thought to how streams would be identified at the MAC-SAP?  Would there be optional parameters added beyond those provided by the 802.2 interface?  The current parameters from 802.3 are listed here:
                MA-UNITDATA request (

        source_address,

        destination_address,

        routing_information,

        data,

        priority,

        service_class

        )

        and from 802.3:


        MA_DATA.request (

        destination_address,

        source_address,

        m_sdu,

        service_class

        )


        Thanks.
                Bill