RE: stds-802-handoff: Addressing Security, was : ThursdayHandoff meeting time.

["Clint Chaplin" <cchaplin@sj.symbol.com>]

Well, there is currently a debate about splitting off fast handoff/fast roaming issues from 802.11 TGi, and the most appropriate forum to put this issue into.  This was discussed yesterday at the 802.11 TGi ad-hoc, at which point someone raised the question of whether your SG may be the most appropriate, rather than a TG within 802.11.  Thus, the question.

I'm not sure I asked the correct question, nor am I sure that whatever issue I was trying to raise was answered.  The Fast Handoff SG may turn out to be the most appropriate place to work on security protocols in fast handoff situations (if you can't do fast handoff securely, then its utility is constrained).

I've got an agenda item at the July 802.11 plenary for a call for interest for Fast handoff/fast roaming within 802.11, but the sense of the body may be that this group would be the most appropriate place....

Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin
>>> "Johnston, Dj" <dj.johnston@intel.com> 06/24/03 20:35 PM >>>
Clint,
Being a study group, whether or not we address security is a matter for
debate until we agree on a PAR. However I feel that there is some
consensus as to how far security needs to be addressed. Please correct
me if I'm wrong on that..

1) We should not define security algorithms. That is for crypto experts.
2) We should not define security protocols. That is addressed elsewhere.
Adding more will not help matters.
3) Security protocols and procedures may benefit from information that
can be made available through handoff mechanisms we hypothetically might
design. So we would be correct to analyse the likely needs of the
security protocols defined elsewhere and make sure we don't break them,
and if possible enable them to work in a handoff scenario.

Put more succinctly, we are here to do handoff stuff, handoff stuff is
to some extent linked to security activities and we need to take that
into account, but getting into defining security protocols would be
overstepping the mark.

DJ


David Johnston
Intel Corporation
Chair, IEEE 802 Handoff ECSG

Email : dj.johnston@intel.com
Tel   : 503 380 5578 (Mobile)
Tel   : 503 264 3855 (Office)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clint Chaplin [mailto:cchaplin@sj.symbol.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:47 PM
> To: stds-802-handoff@ieee.org; Johnston, Dj
> Subject: Re: stds-802-handoff: Thursday Handoff meeting time.
> 
> 
> You'll probably tell me if I am wrong, but didn't I overhear 
> that security would >not< be addressed by this SG?  And if 
> so, was this because of the lack of expertiese in the SG, or 
> for other reasons?
> 
> 
> Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin
> 

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