Re: +++ IEEE 802 BALLOT: Approve $4K Funding for FCC to attend IEEE 802 meeting
You parsed my sentence correctly Tony.
Best regards,
Robert D. Love
Chair, Resilient Packet Ring Alliance
President, LAN Connect Consultants
7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Jeffree" <tony@jeffree.co.uk>
To: <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: +++ IEEE 802 BALLOT: Approve $4K Funding for FCC to attend IEEE
802 meeting
>
> Sorry Bob - I had difficulty parsing the sentence. Is what you are
> suggesting that 802 should act as a neutral clearing house so that
> companies that support FCC attendance can pay the cost of the FCC
> attendees' travel? If so, the short answer is yes, this does open another
> can of worms. Not clear to me that the govt and/or press would regard this
> as any different from those companies sponsoring the FCC directly. I vote
> No for that approach if that is what you have suggested. If it is
> something different, please clarify.
>
> Roger's arguments are very persuasive here - if we expect this
organization
> to develop standards on with International significance/participation, we
> can't be seen to be offering favourable conditions to govt employees from
> one country - and I'm absolutely sure we don't plan to make this open
house
> for all government employees from all countries that might have an
interest
> in a trip to the US.
>
> Regards,
> Tony
>
>
>
> At 10:38 14/02/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >I vote No with the following conditions for changing my vote to a yes.
> > If companies that support the FCC coming to the 802 meeting will pay
the
> >IEEE 802 funds to cover the travel, then the IEEE 802 should sponsor
those
> >attendees.
> >
> >Bob Grow, I don't know if this proposal is opening a whole new can of
worms.
> >Your comments on it would be appreciated.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Robert D. Love
> >Chair, Resilient Packet Ring Alliance
> >President, LAN Connect Consultants
> >7105 Leveret Circle Raleigh, NC 27615
> >Phone: 919 848-6773 Mobile: 919 810-7816
> >email: rdlove@ieee.org Fax: 720 222-0900
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Hayes, Vic (Vic)" <vichayes@agere.com>
> >To: "802.0 reflector" <stds-802-sec@ieee.org>; <jcarlo@ti.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:04 AM
> >Subject: RE: +++ IEEE 802 BALLOT: Approve $4K Funding for FCC to attend
IEEE
> >802 meeting
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Colleagues,
> > >
> > > I do highly support this motion. My vote is "AFFIRM".
> > >
> > > I have sympathy with the comments made so far that this looks like a
tax.
> > > However, I have learned that this is the only way to get the FCC staff
to
> > > pay visits to any place in the world. I can not change those rules
before
> > > the March meeting.
> > >
> > > I am looking into the detailed rules from the Government. It seems to
be
> > > impossible to take up the bill as a company or a group of companies. I
> >have
> > > asked a conversation with the FCC General Counsel to find out the
details.
> > > So far I understood they have to get the payment from the host.
> > >
> > > The subject may seem arbitrary for people not involved in the
regulations.
> > > But let me tell you that we are in an extremely important phase of the
> >rules
> > > relevant to our devices. We have the opportunity to get first hand
> > > information from the FCC and we can get detailed background
information
> > > relevant to actions we have to take.
> > >
> > > I beg for your solidarity to the whole community you are in and trust
that
> > > you will vote (change your vote to) affirmation.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > ---------------
> > > Vic Hayes
> > > Agere Systems Nederland B.V., formerly Lucent Technologies
> > > Zadelstede 1-10
> > > 3431 JZ Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
> > > Phone: +31 30 609 7528 (Time Zone UTC + 1)
> > > FAX: +31 30 609 7556
> > > e-mail: vichayes@agere.com
> > > http://wavelan.com/
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Jim Carlo[SMTP:jcarlo@ti.com]
> > > > Reply To: jcarlo@ti.com
> > > > Sent: 11 February 2001 12:38 PM
> > > > To: IEEE802
> > > > Subject: +++ IEEE 802 BALLOT: Approve $4K Funding for FCC to attend
> > > > IEEE 802 meeting
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > SEC OFFICIAL EMAIL BALLOT 802.0/20Dec2000
> > > > Issue Date: 20Dec2000 Closing Date: 4Jan2000
> > > > Moved By: Vic Hayes Seconded By: Stuart Kerry
> > > > Move: Authorize invitation to the FCC for March Plenary Meeting (and
if
> > > > not
> > > > then in July), paying travel expenses up to $4K.
> > > >
> > > > Notes:
> > > > I have had a number of discussions with some of you regarding
inviting
> >the
> > > > FCC to our IEEE 802 meeting so they can better understand the IEEE
802
> > > > process and know us better. Note that the FCC person generally will
not
> > > > answer any technical or legal question. My hope is the FCC could
better
> > > > understand us and see our collective vision of where the future is
> >heading
> > > > in wireless. I was also going to see if the FCC attendee could give
us a
> > > > tutorial on Tuesday evening on how the FCC process works.
> > > >
> > > > In T1E1, we invite the FCC but T1 must pay for their travel
expenses.
> >This
> > > > is the same situation if we invite an FCC member to an IEEE 802
meeting.
> > > > Note that an individual or company cannot pay for this, because of a
> > > > perceived bias. Therefore, in the invitation to the FCC, I will need
to
> > > > specify that we cover travel expenses, say up to $4K.
> > > >
> > > > From Vic Hayes:
> > > > At the last meeting, 802.11 passed the following motion:
> > > >
> > > > To request the SEC members to consider by email ballot, paying for
> >travel
> > > > and lodging for a representative of the FCC to attend the March
meeting,
> > > > and
> > > > if approved, have the chairman of the
> > > > 802.11 ad hoc regulatory group request that an FCC representative
attend
> > > > the
> > > > March meeting.
> > > > 3.7.1.4.1. Vote on the main motion - passes 29:5:2
> > > >
> > > > I just heard that my sponsor wants me to go to the ITU-R Joint
> > > > Rapporteursgroup 8A-9B meeting rather than to Hilton Head for the
IEEE
> >802
> > > > meetings.
> > > > I found Peter Murray willing to take the leadership.
> > > >
>
>