Re: Cost Discussions
Steve,
That's the same rule we used in our last meeting when someone
wanted to talk about cost. I was under the impression the
pdf that was attached was suggesting that dimensioned numbers
could be used.
thanks,
mike
Steve Carlson wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> What's happening in 802.3af right now is the result of a number of new
> people who have joined the group who missed the "cost/price" lecture. We
> have found that doing things with relative costs (dimensionless numbers)
> works well. For example, if Solution A has a cost of 1.0, then adding
> Feature B increases the cost by 2%, or something. This worked for us.
>
> It's tricky.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
> Steven B. Carlson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org [mailto:owner-stds-802-sec@ieee.org]On
> Behalf Of Mike Takefman
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:41 PM
> To: Geoff Thompson; jcarlo
> Cc: IEEE802
> Subject: Re: Cost Discussions
>
> Jim, Geoff,
>
> I hate to sound stupid my first time out, but isn't one person's
> cost the previous person's price ? So I cannot talk about optics
> module costs, or ASIC costs since I purchase those components at a price.
>
> What rule can I use as chair to determine whether people are
> truely talking about the cost of something?
>
> thanks,
>
> mike
>
> Geoff Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Jim-
> >
> > As far as I am concerned, it has been a "Chair's Guideline" ever since it
> > was put up by Don Loughry in 1988. I have the original slide and have been
> > using it for years when the occasion is appropriate. The only difference
> is
> > that David has transcribed the slide verbatim and posted it on our web
> site.
> >
> > I guess the problem is that even though it has been there all along no one
> > else knew/remembered it.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > At 12:34 PM 3/23/01 -0600, Jim Carlo wrote:
> > >Steve Carlson referred his task force to a note below. Should we make
> this a
> > >Chair's guideline?
> > >
> > >Jim Carlo(jcarlo@ti.com) Cellular:1-214-693-1776 Voice&Fax:1-214-853-5274
> > >TI Fellow, Networking Standards at Texas Instruments
> > >Vice Chair, IEEE-SA Standards Board
> > >Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Committee
> > >
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