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RE: [802SEC] Spam on email reflectors

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Yes, I can think of a reason, our processes are supposed to be "open".
Restricting reflector participation is contrary to this especially when
compared to IETF (which we frequently are).  Membership in the WG is
extremely restrictive, even limiting to Members and Observers is too

The effort to control the spam should be proportional to the inconvenience
of WG members having to occasionally hit the delete key.  (I would bet that
hazard that of those complaining about the spam few would volunteer time the
time necessary to keep it out.)

--Bob Grow

-----Original Message-----
From: RDLove []
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:53 PM
To: Mike Takefman;
Subject: Re: [802SEC] Spam on email reflectors

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Mike, I don't know of any 802 reflectors that are closed to notes from
outsiders.  However, I know of no good reasons not to do so.  As long as the
chair's email address (and the addresses of the other Working Group
officers) is posted on the web site, serious inquiries can always be sent
there.  I have certainly had my share of  "I am a student in Bolivia and
want to know all about 802 standards.  Please send me the information".  If
these students have a way of finding our email addresses, more serious
inquirers certainly can.  I expect Spam will become a worse problem over
time, rather than less severe.  It may also be just a matter of time before
we get more offensive spamming, then the one we got today.  If anyone on the
reflector abuses that privilege, then that offending email id can certainly
be withdrawn.  In addition, you can limit participation of those without a
legitimate business .com email address to people whose names and or phone
numbers you can independently verify, or even to participants in 802.17.

Does anyone out there have any really good reasons to keep the Working Group
reflectors open to non-members?

Best regards,

Robert D. Love
Chair, Resilient Packet Ring Alliance
President, LAN Connect Consultants
7105 Leveret Circle     Raleigh, NC 27615
Phone: 919 848-6773       Mobile: 919 810-7816
email:          Fax: 720 222-0900
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Takefman" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 3:00 PM
Subject: [802SEC] Spam on email reflectors

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> People,
> I recall a recent spate of spam on the SEC reflector and the
> discussion on whether posting policies should be open or
> closed.
> My reflector just got spammed today and some of my members
> have suggested I restrict posting to members of the
> mailing list.
> Does any other group restrict access in a similar manner?
> cheers,
> mike
> --
> Michael Takefman    
> Manager HW Engineering,       Cisco Systems
> Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
> 2000 Innovation Dr, Ottawa, Canada, K2K 3E8
> voice: 613-271-3399       fax: 613-271-4867