RE: [802SEC] Closing SEC Meeting for St Louis
All,
I suspect that the requirement to stay an extra night (or 2 nights for some
working groups) to attend the Friday plenary is decreasing the pool of
people who would be willing to take Executive Committee offices. Being there
on Monday morning already eats into the weekend on the front end and some
people come out even earlier to allow for Sunday meetings.
When I first started chairing 802.3, we weren't nearly as efficient as we
have become partly because we didn't have the tools (no laptops and no
displays other than overhead transparencies) that expedite things today.
Sometimes 802.3 didn't finish until 6 PM. An hour left enough time from the
end of the meeting to the start of the SEC meeting though it meant I had to
hurry.
In the interest of splitting the pain fairly, I suggest that the SEC meeting
start at 1 PM. I expect that chairs with Friday morning plenaries will find
that by doing as much preparation as possible before their plenary they can
get ready in 1 hour.
And perhaps at the Monday SEC meeting in March there can be a discussion of
whether to continue to schedule the closing SEC for the afternoon or whether
to go to Friday morning. I think it would be better to make that kind of a
decision at a plenary because of its effect on Working Group schedules.
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: stuart.kerry@philips.com [mailto:stuart.kerry@philips.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:36 PM
To: stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Closing SEC Meeting for St Louis
Well said Vic. My sentiments also......
Sorry Mike, but 802.11 does have a very full agenda, and needs ALL the
time it can get. Our close will be 12:00 mid-day Friday.
Stay the extra night, and "I will even buy the drinks....."
Best Regards,
- Stuart
-----Original Message-----
From: Hayes, Vic (Vic) [mailto:vichayes@agere.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 23:42
To: Mike Takefman; stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: [802SEC] Closing SEC Meeting for St Louis
Mike and colleagues,
With Working Group meetings planned to run from 8-12 AM, it is
impossible for me to have the closing plenary before 3 PM. We need to do
work resulting from the decisions made during those closing plenary
meetings and simply are not able to be in the SEC earlier.
Thanks and regards
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Vic Hayes
Agere Systems Nederland B.V., formerly Lucent Technologies
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Takefman [mailto:tak@cisco.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 3:59 AM
To: stds-802-sec@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: [802SEC] Closing SEC Meeting for St Louis
Colleagues,
I did a quick search of the November SEC closing minutes
and I did not find any mention of the schedule for the
closing SEC meeting for March.
I will start by suggesting we start early and end early
(1 to 5pm?) thus allowing me to get out of town on
a 7:20 pm flight :). Or, I could be very cheeky and suggest
8am to 12pm.
That being said, when do people want to meet.
mike
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Manager of Engineering, Cisco Systems
Chair IEEE 802.17 Stds WG
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