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RE: [802SEC] Regarding Robert's Rules and the Premature Adjournment of the 802




Bob,

802 rules state that there is no quorum requirement at a plenary meeting so
I don't understand how lack of a quorum affected your adjournment. Does
802.11 have a quorum requirement beyond the 802 rules?

Regards,
Pat

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Subject: [802SEC] Regarding Robert's Rules and the Premature Adjournment
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Forwarded for John Kowalski.

 -Bob
 

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Subject: Regarding Robert's Rules and the Premature Adjournment of the 802
	.11 Interim Meeting
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 09:28:53 -0800
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Hello, folks,

I would like a definite opinion/ruling, to the extent that we can get one,
that the meeting was in fact, adjourned in conflict with Robert's Rules,
specifically, as is stated in Chapter XI, para. 40, p. 337:

"The prohibition against transacting business in the absence of a quorum
cannot be waived even by unanimous consent, and a notice (pp. 116-118)
cannot be validly given.  If there is important business that should not be
delayed, the meeting should fix the time for an adjourned meeting, and then
adjourn.  Where an important opportunity would be lost unless acted upon
immediately, the members present can, at their own risk, act in the
emergency with the hope that their actions will be ratified by a later
meeting at which a quorum is present. ..."

(Emphasis mine.)

We have in the past operated without a quorum based on the above text, and,
I would think we would do so in the future, given the cumulative cost of
having so many people attend a meeting.  We need to ensure that the events
that led to the premature adjournment do not happen again.

Thanks,
John



John M. Kowalski, Ph.D.
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