RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Motion: 802.16a to Sponsor Ballot
I've read through the disapprove comments and I have two concerns:
1) TBD's - normally we forward to sponsor ballot a document should be
complete which means that it shouldn't have any TBD's. Starting sponsor
ballot has been equated to lighting a solid fuel booster rocket. It can be
hard to abort the process once one has gotten to that point. It is the final
review phase. If the TBDs are in an informative part of the standard such
that even if they are never filled in it would be okay to publish then maybe
it is acceptable to go to sponsor ballot with them in place. If the TBDs are
normative then they need to be filled in before starting sponsor ballot
(which implies another Working Group recirculation).
2) Dismissive unresponsive responses to disapprove comments. A number of the
comment responses don't appear to seriously respond to the comment. To the
uninitiated reader they read like brushoffs. Look, for example, at the
comments concerned about the number of alternative physical layers. A
response to a comment such as this should include brief justification of why
the alternatives have been included. Similarly the responses to requests
that material be added to guide one in selecting between the PHY
alternatives. Note that the under Distinct Identity of the Five Criteria on
requirement is: "Easy for the document reader to select the relevant
specification." so it is a reasonable request that should have gotten a more
serious response.
If sponsor ballot comments end up going to RevCom with similar responses
then there is a good chance that the submission won't get approved. Comment
responses to unresolved disapprove comments should be written such that they
justify the working group response to an outsider. That is who will be
reviewing them to audit that the working group did its job.
Regards,
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Nikolich [mailto:Paul.nikolich@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:06 AM
To: 'IEEE802'
Subject: [802SEC] +++ SEC EMAIL BALLOT +++ Motion: 802.16a to Sponsor
Ballot
Dear SEC,
This is an SEC email ballot on making a determination on the below SEC
motion to forward IEEEE P802.16a/d2 to LMSC Sponsor Ballot, moved by Roger
Marks, seconded by Bob Heile.
The email ballot opens on Friday April 5 9AM EST and closes Friday April 12
noon EDT.
Please direct your responses to the SEC reflector.
Regards,
--Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger B. Marks [mailto:marks@boulder.nist.gov]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:47 PM
To: p.nikolich@ieee.org
Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org; stds-802-16@ieee.org
Subject: Motion: 802.16a to Sponsor Ballot
Paul,
I would like to make the following IEEE 802 LMSC Motion:
"To forward IEEE P802.16a/D3 to LMSC Sponsor Ballot"
Motion by: Roger Marks
Seconded by: Robert Heile
Full backup material, including details of all 12 Disapprove comments:
<http://ieee802.org/16/docs/02/80216-02_21.pdf>
SUMMARY:
*IEEE 802.16 Letter Ballot #4 (including Recirc #4a and Confirm #4b)
"To forward IEEE P802.16a for IEEE Sponsor Ballot"
Dates: 2001-11-30 to 2002-04-04
Final results: Approve 99 (95%)
Disapprove 5
Abstain 18
Return Ratio 122/178 = 69%
Disapprove Comments 12
Final voting report: http://ieee802.org/16/tga/ballot04/report4b.html
Disapprove comments: http://ieee802.org/16/docs/02/80216-02_21.pdf
(all were recirculated)
Results of final recirculation (Confirmation Ballot #4b):
New Disapproves 0
Comments 0
*IEEE 802.16 Authorizing Motion
802.16 Session #18 Closing Plenary (15 March 2002)
Motion: "To authorize a confirmation ballot of P802.16a/D3 and
forward it for LMSC Sponsor Ballot pending successful confirmation
ballot."
Motion by: Brian Kiernan, for Task Group a
Seconded by: (none needed)
Approve: 32
Disapprove: 1
Abstain: 2
Other documentation:
Confirmation Ballot #4b announcement:
<http://ieee802.org/16/docs/02/80216-02_20.pdf>
final comment Resolution database:
<http://ieee802.org/16/docs/02/80216-02_01r14.pdf> [PDF format]
<http://ieee802.org/16/docs/02/80216-02_01r14.zip> [database format]
draft (P802.16a/D3):
http://wirelessman.dyndns.org/users/tgaaccess/private/P80216a_D3.zip
(username and password upon request)
I would like to urge that the ballot be concluded by noon ET on April
12 in order to accommodate our tight schedule situation (namely, so
that we can get the ballot closed before our interim meeting).
Please let me know if I can provide any more information.
Regards,
Roger