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RE: [802SEC] Get802 Program SEC ballot

IEEE could offer a sweetener to potential sponsors: they could give 
them free access to 802 drafts. It's not much, but it IS an 
incentive, because the drafts are not included in the IEL.

You could buy a lot of drafts for the kind of money IEEE is seeking; 
alternatively, you could buy an Enterprise 802 subscription, 
including drafts, for $11,950. So drafts alone won't the deal 
economically viable, but they could shift the equation slightly.


At 4:18 PM -0600 02/04/16, THALER,PAT (A-Roseville,ex1) wrote:
>I agree with Howard's points 1 and 2, but I think that it
>is unlikely that the desired level of funding will be
>secured. When we were setting up the program (before the
>economic downturn) it was already clear that there was
>little interest from the corporations in sponsorship.
>Here is my perspective on why:
>I know that Agilent already subscribes to an IEEE program
>that allows download of various IEEE publications including
>the standards. Probably many of the other large corporations
>do so. Therefore, making IEEE 802 standards available to
>their own employees isn't a reason to support Get802. They are
>already paying for them bundled with enough other things that
>the price for their subscription wouldn't be changed by taking
>Get802 out.
>I think the advertising benefit of a sponsorship is a
>difficult proposition. The exposure of having a logo on
>the website has minimal value. The other possiblity is
>a charitable contribution, but most of the corporations
>have a lot more compelling possiblities for charitable
>contributions then free standards for underprivileged
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Howard Frazier []
>Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 11:05 AM
>Subject: [802SEC] Get802 Program SEC ballot
>I suggest that the release of funds should be postponed
>pending the outcome of the current work on the program,
>for the following reasons:
>1) We have no committment to extend the program past
>May 15, 2002.
>2) The IEEE staff has made clear their desire to alter
>the program unless a significant level of corporate
>sponsorship is secured.
>3) While several parties are working diligently to
>secure corporate sponsorship for the program, the
>desired level of funding has not yet been secured.
>4) Given 2 and 3, we don't know what the program will
>be after May 15.  If we send the 802
>contribution before the negotiations have been
>completed, we will be supporting a program that we
>may or may not like, and we will loose a considerable
>amount of leverage in the negotiations.
>In my opinion, the success or failure of Get802 does
>not hinge on 802's direct financial contribution.
>The LMSC funds represent a base level of funding for
>Get802, and they turn out to be the one constant
>in a shifting financial picture.  Corporate sponsorship,
>subscriptions, and sales of individual documents are
>subject to many factors. Unfortunately, the past year
>has been a truly lousy one for most of the networking
>industry, so all of the financial components of the
>Get802 program suffered mightily, with the exception
>of the LMSC's contribution.
>If you believe in the Get802 program, and you want to
>see it continue, here is what you must do:
>   Apply all of your energy to securing corporate
>   sponsorship for the program.  Work on your own
>   company, and work every contact you have in the
>   industry.  Find volunteers in your WGs to do the
>   same. If each SEC member can convince a company
>   to sponsor Get802, the IEEE's financial goal will
>   be met.
>If the corporate sponsorship shows up, then we can
>work with the IEEE staff to define the right program,
>and send in our contribution.  If the corporate
>sponsorship doesn't show up, the program is toast,
>and our financial contribution won't matter.