RE: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on WG electronic voting
Bill,
The LMSC rules have always allowed Working Group Chairs to decide
procedural issues. In all the Working Groups in which I have
participated, almost all procedural issues (or substantive ones
at least) are decided by a 50% vote of the Working Group.
I think that is okay because a Chair can delegate a decision
that he/she is authorized to make to a vote of the Working
Group. The one exception is where the resolution of an issue
could violate the rules governing our operation. A Working
Group chair has responsibility to keep the group within the
operating rules. There have been cases where Chairs did not
allow a motion or overruled a procedural vote because it
was not consistant with the rules, but such a need is fairly
rare.
The 802.3 Operating Rules state: "The Chair of a TF may decide
procedural issues or may put them to a vote of the TF." which
makes this more clear for its Task Force Chairs.
Regards,
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Quackenbush [mailto:billq@attglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:27 AM
To: p.nikolich@ieee.org
Cc: 'IEEE802'
Subject: Re: [802SEC] +++ SEC Rules Change Letter Ballot +++ Ballot on
WG electronic voting
All,
In section 5.1.4.1 of the LMSC Rules, which is part of the text of this
proposed rules change, there is a statement that "The Chair of the
Working Group decides procedural issues". Is this correct?
I was under the impression that the Chair decided whether a motion was
procedural or technical, but that the Working Group decided both
technical and procedural issues by vote.
Am I misinformed or is this text wrong?
Thanks,
wlq
Paul Nikolich wrote:
>
> Dear SEC members,
>
> Attached you will find the text for the SEC rules change letter ballot on
WG
> Electronic Voting. (Note this is a resend of the March 17, 2002 letter
> ballot notice with the start time revised to 4/1/02 because we did not
> officially approve it for distribution until last night. Other than that
it
> is unchanged).
>
> Scope: To permit voting by electronic means at the working group level.
>
> Purpose: To facilitate the WG consensus process.
>
> The ballot opens April 1, 2002 and closes June 8, 2002 12 midnight EDT
> (remember if you do not vote or abstain it is equivalent to a DISAPPROVE
> vote). Buzz, please ensure this gets sent to the 802-wide email list as
> well. WG chairs, if you haven't already done so, please invite your WG
> members to comment through you.
>
> Regards,
>
> --Paul Nikolich
>
> Chair, IEEE802 LAN/MAN Standards Project
> email: p.nikolich@ieee.org
> cell: 857.205.0050
> mail: 18 Bishops Lane, Lynnfield, MA 01940
>
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