RE: [802SEC] Review of 2003 802 CD-ROM content
Geoff -
I agree - we should keep withdrawn/obsolete material in a separate
directory on the CD ROM so that we have it available as reference material,
but it is obvious that it is not current.
Regards,
Tony
At 15:15 29/08/2002 -0700, Geoff Thompson wrote:
>Pat-
>
>I'm not sure where we ended up on the withdrawal of 802.12 stuff. I know
>we started to do it and then the issue came up that the ISO would still be
>valid. Did that stop the withdrawal of the IEEE until the ISO ran out?
>
>I am of the opinion that we should include withdrawn standards and perhaps
>even old editions if they have had significant material removed. One of
>the major problems we seem to be having these days is that we have to
>start at ground zero in terms of teaching what has gone before to the
>new/current constituency. Having early material broadly available to our
>membership could be valuable.
>
>To this end I would support a separate directory for withdrawn/obsolete.
>
>To this end I would think that 802.7 should be included.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>At 03:05 PM 8/29/2002 -0600, pat_thaler@agilent.com wrote:
>>BTW, I think the withdrawn standards are the 802.4, 802.9 and
>>802.12 documents. However, the IEEE 802.12 listing on Get802
>>doesn't indicate that it has been withdrawn and both IEEE 802.9
>>and IEEE 802.12 appear in the IEEE On-line Standards Catalog
>>without any indication that they are withdrawn.
>>
>>I'm not sure what the status of 802.6 is. The dates on the standards
>>are 1994 and 1995 so it seems that they must have been reaffirmed or
>>withdrawn recently.
>>
>>Pat
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pat_thaler@agilent.com [mailto:pat_thaler@agilent.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:46 PM
>>To: gthompso@nortelnetworks.com; bob@bstormnetworks.com
>>Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>>Subject: RE: [802SEC] Review of 2003 802 CD-ROM content
>>
>>
>>
>>Geoff,
>>
>>I thought about sending that question too, but decided not to
>>bring it up.
>>
>>To the extent that we produce the CD so that 802 standards
>>developers will be able to refer to the earlier standards
>>to see how a particular problem was handled, to get examples
>>of text for various situations, etc., the withdrawn standards
>>are still useful for this purpose.
>>
>>It might be a good idea, assuming we include the withdrawn
>>standards, to make sure it is clear which documents are withdrawn.
>>(One way would be to put them under a separate Withdrawn directory.)
>>That would prevent some possible mistakes like referencing a
>>withdrawn standard.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Pat
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Geoff Thompson [mailto:gthompso@nortelnetworks.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:06 PM
>>To: Bob O'Hara
>>Cc: stds-802-sec@ieee.org
>>Subject: Re: [802SEC] Review of 2003 802 CD-ROM content
>>
>>
>>
>>Bob-
>>
>>Is it our intention (or not) to include withdrawn (but presumably not
>>superceded) standards in this collection?
>>I'm actually willing to go either way on this.
>>
>>Geoff
>>
>>
>>At 03:43 PM 8/28/2002 -0700, Bob O'Hara wrote:
>>
>> >Please review the list of documents, below, that are to be included on
>> >the 2003 edition of the 802 CD-ROM. If a document is not on the list,
>> >it will not appear on the CD-ROM. Please let me know if you have any
>> >additions, deletions, or changes. Thanks for your attention to this!
>> >
>> >2003 802 Standards CD-ROM
>> >Root:
>> >License
>> >802 operating rules
>> >
>> >802:
>> >802-2001
>> >
>> >802.1:
>> >11802-5-1997
>> >15802-2-1995
>> >15802-4-1994
>> >15802-5-1998
>> >802.1D-1998
>> >802.1F-1993
>> >802.1Q-1998
>> >802.1t-2001
>> >802.1u-2001
>> >802.1v-2001
>> >802.1W-2001
>> >802.1X-2001
>> >
>> >802.2:
>> >8802-2-1998
>> >
>> >802.3:
>> >1802.3-2001
>> >802.3-2000
>> >802.3ae-2002
>> >
>> >802.3 Files:
>> >DISTORTION-M.TXT
>> >IEEE8023-LAG-MIB.TXT
>> >SINEFIT-M.TXT
>> >TABLE40_1.TXT
>> >TABLE40_2.TXT
>> >TABLE40_10.TXT
>> >TABLE40_11.TXT
>> >
>> >802.4:
>> >8802-4H-1997
>> >8802-4-1990
>> >
>> >802.5:
>> >8802-5-1998
>> >8802-5-1998 amd 1
>> >802.5c-1991
>> >802.5t-2000
>> >802.5W-2000
>> >802.5v-2001
>> >
>> >802.6:
>> >8802-6-1994
>> >802.6ch-1993
>> >802.6j-1995
>> >802.6k-1992
>> >
>> >802.9:
>> >8802-9-1996
>> >802.9A-1995
>> >802.9C-1995
>> >802.9D-1995
>> >
>> >802.10:
>> >802.10-1998
>> >802.10A-1999
>> >802.10C-1998
>> >
>> >802.11:
>> >8802-11-1999
>> >802.11a-1999
>> >802.11b-1999
>> >802.11d-2001
>> >802.11b-cor1-2001
>> >
>> >802.11 Files:
>> >Current MIB text file
>> >Current SDL files(?)
>> >
>> >802.12:
>> >8802-12-1998
>> >802.12C-1998
>> >
>> >802.15:
>> >802.15.1-2002
>> >
>> >802.16:
>> >802.16-2001
>> >802.16.2-2001
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Bob
>> >
>> >Bob O'Hara
>> >Black Storm Networks
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>> >
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>> >email: bob@bstormnetworks.com
>> >
>
Regards,
Tony