RE: [802SEC] Should we continue to meet in Hawaii?
I also agree ...
Carl
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Quackenbush [mailto:billq@attglobal.net]
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:52 PM
> To: Geoff Thompson
> Cc: Tony Jeffree; pat_thaler@agilent.com; stds-802-sec@ieee.org
> Subject: Re: [802SEC] Should we continue to meet in Hawaii?
>
>
>
> While I am ignorant of meeting costs on the western side of
> the Pacific
> Rim, I am in general in agreement with the sentiments expressed by
> Geoff, Tony and Pat.
>
> Please don't get me wrong, I greatly enjoy Hawaii as a vacation
> destination and I enjoy Kauai in particular. The Hyatt
> Regency Kauai is
> a first class hotel. But our purpose is business and for
> that purpose,
> such venues are a "waste". A waste because we pay a significantly
> higher rate and have little or no time to enjoy what we pay
> extra for.
> For those who arrive early, stay late or just skip some of
> the meetings,
> a venue like Kauai is a low cost or free vacation. For those who do
> none of those, it is a waste.
>
> Thanks,
>
> wlq
>
> Geoff Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Given the high costs of having it in Hawaii (and possibly
> Japan) we could
> > probably net people ahead by having it in Australia, New
> Zealand or Korea.
> >
> > If we were really doing this in Hawaii for (1) business and (2) the
> > convenience of folks from the Far East then we would be
> having the meetings
> > on Oahu. Let's not kid ourselves. we come here for the
> resort factor,
> > appropriate or not.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > At 08:24 AM 11/12/2002 +0000, Tony Jeffree wrote:
> >
> > >At 01:21 12/11/2002 -0700, pat_thaler@agilent.com wrote:
> > >
> > >>Colleagues,
> > >>
> > >>The original rationale for meeting in Hawaii was to meet
> our Pacific Rim
> > >>attendees halfway once every two years. We reached this
> decision many
> > >>years ago after an unsuccessful search for economically
> feasible venues
> > >>in Australia, Japan, etc.
> > >>
> > >>The previous search was done before the recesion in Japan
> and neighbors.
> > >>Also, there have been new venues constructed since then.
> For instance,
> > >>the IETF had a meeting in Yokohama at the Yokohama Grand
> > >>Inter-Continental Hotel. There is a Pan Pacific Hotel
> across the street
> > >>for overflow.
> > >>
> > >>Given the costs of meeting in Hawaii, the SEC should
> investigate the
> > >>possibility of meeting on the West side of the Pacific
> instead of in the
> > >>middle.
> > >>
> > >>Pat
> > >
> > >I agree.
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Tony
> > >
>