[802SEC] RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page

["Grow, Bob" <bob.grow@intel.com>]

This SEC member supports it.  We don't need the 802 web master chasing people for updates.  To have a single update for the meetings helps everyone.  To keep the URL constant is a reasonable constraint on web design.

--Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Rigsbee, Everett O [mailto:everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:37 PM
To: David Law; 802 Exec
Cc: tslykhouse@yahoo.com; Dawn Slykhouse; billq@attglobal.net; 802 Bob
O'Hara; Bob.Grow@intel.com; Geoff Thompson
Subject: RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page


David,  This sounds very reasonable to me.  Let's see what the SEC thinks about your proposal.  

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98324-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com


-----Original Message-----
From: David Law [mailto:David_Law@eur.3com.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:42 AM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: 'tslykhouse@yahoo.com'; Dawn Slykhouse; Bill Quackenbush (billq@attglobal.net); 802 Bob O'Hara; Bob.Grow@intel.com; Geoff Thompson
Subject: RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page



Hi Buzz,

Can I suggest that each Working Group and Executive Committee Study Group has a
'Interims' page that lists their upcoming interims at a fixed location such as:-

http://www.ieee802.org/X/interims/index.html

where X is the 'dot' number or ECSG designation. For example 802.3's page would
be at the URL :-

http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html

and the Link Security ECSG would be at:

http://www.ieee802.org/linksec/interims/index.html

These pages would be the responsibility of the respective Working Groups /
Executive Committee Study Groups to maintain with up to date interim information
or just a statement that the next time the group will meet is the upcoming
plenary meeting. The 802 page [http://www.ieee802.org/meeting/index.html ] would
then simply provide a link to each Working Groups Interims meeting page, this
page would then look like something:




                      IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee

o March 2003            Plenary Meeting Information (PDF)             Updated 03
 Dec 2002
o March 2003            Plenary Meeting Information (HTML)            Updated 03
 Dec 2002
o Future Meetings       Future Plenary Meeting Schedule (HTML)        Updated 15
 Nov 2002

o Upcoming Interim meetings

   o IEEE 802.1 Interim Meetings
   o IEEE 802.3 Interim Meetings
   o IEEE 802.  ..........
   o IEEE 802.20 Interim Meetings
   o IEEE 802 Link Security Executive Committee Study Group Interim Meetings



This would finally de-couple the 802 page from the Working Group Interim's
meeting pages. The 802 page then would only need updated for plenary information
which to me is the right way to do this. For example there is still a link there
at the moment that reads 'January 2003 - IEEE 802.1/.3 Interim Meeting Updated
-12 Dec 2002' that actually takes you to the notice for the 802.3 January
Mipitas and February Raleigh meetings, neither of which involve 802.1. If there
was simply just a link to the 802.1 and 802.3 Interims page this issue shouldn't
occur.

Thanks very much,
  David







"Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com> on 15/01/2003 01:10:16

Sent by:  "Rigsbee, Everett O" <everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com>


To:   "'tslykhouse @yahoo.com'" <tslykhouse@yahoo.com>
cc:   David Law/GB/3Com@3Com, Dawn Slykhouse <dawns@facetoface-events.com>,
      "Bill Quackenbush , "802 Bob O'Hara" <bob@bstormnetworks.com>
Subject:  RE: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page




Tom,  I think it would be a very good idea to produce a written description
of what exactly is going to be done and how each WG could make use of the
general facility for tracking Interim Meeting Information.  I would
circulate the document to the SEC for comment before proceeding with the
implementation.  If we are going to create a standard facility, we should
make sure we have consensus on the plan first.

PS: If you're just talking about fixing David's Link for now, that's OK too;
but we definitely do need a standard way to do this that minimizes the
number of time we have to update the "Meetings" page.

Thanx,  Buzz
Dr. Everett O. (Buzz) Rigsbee
Boeing - SSG
PO Box 3707, M/S: 7M-FM
Seattle, WA  98324-2207
(425) 865-2443    Fx: (425) 865-6721
everett.o.rigsbee@boeing.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Slykhouse [mailto:tslykhouse@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:17 PM
To: Rigsbee, Everett O
Cc: David_Law@eur.3com.com; Dawn Slykhouse
Subject: FW: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page
Importance: High

Hi Buzz,

Dawn asked me to make sure you don't have any problem with David's request,
before I implement it.

-Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: David Law [mailto:David_Law@eur.3com.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:40 AM
To: webmaster@facetoface-events.com
Cc: Bob.Grow@intel.com; njarvis@cisco.com
Subject: 'IEEE 802 - LAN/MAN Standards Committee' web page

Hi Facetoface webmaster,

Please note that the link on the above web page [
http://www.ieee802.org/meeting/index.html ] marked 'January 2003 IEEE
802.1/.3
Interim Meeting' is in fact a link to the IEEE 802.3 Interims web page and
while
we endeavor to meet jointly with 802.1 wherever possible this is not always
the
case. In addition, 802.3 holds more Interim meetings than 802.1, for example
we
have 802.3 only meetings January 28th through 31th in Santa Clara and
February
17th & 18th in Research Triangle Park NC. I have therefore CCed Neil Jarvis,
the
802.1 Web master, as he may be able to give you a permanent link on their
web
site to link to that is a similar page to the 802.3 Interims web page [
http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html ].

Please also note that the URL referenced [
http://www.ieee802.org/3/interims/index.html ] is a fixed URL that is
continuously updated with the future IEEE P802.3 Interim meetings therefore
the
URL does not need changed and the link should not be marked with any
particular
date - if not it will need changed for each of the 802.3 Interims that we
hold
which could be a lot of effort and simply duplicates the work already done
for
the 802.3 page. Hence the text beside the link to the 802.3 Interims web
page
should simply read 'Future IEEE 802.3 Interim meetings' or something
similar.

Thanks very much for your help.

Best regards,
  David Law